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Re: Anglo-German competition for Zionist support in WWI by Buddy Grizzard 23 October 2002 07:02 UTC |
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Mr. Spector, You wrote: "It should make other members of the WSN list uneasy that this type of posting appears on a list with which we are all associated." Forgive me if I inject my own opinion here, but this comes across to me as more of a smear than a criticism. "I don't know anything about John Leonard." John Leonard is the publisher of British political scientist Nafeez Mossadeq Ahmed's seminal book on 9/11, "The War on Freedom." This book should be the standard university text for any serious student of the prehistory and history of 9/11. After the book was published in Italy, Gore Vidal took out a full page ad in a major Italian daily praising it, and it subsequently sold out the first two printings. Subsequent to that, one million Italians converged on Rome to protest the Bush administration's desire to preemptively strike Iraq. And while working on Cynthia McKinney's last campaign, after she had requested through me that the 9/11 research community do all it could to educate the voters of Georgia's 4th Congressional District about the facts of 9/11, Mr. Leonard donated a case of books to the campaign and was supportive of my own personal efforts. In my opinion, the single greatest way to derail the administrations plans for open-ended war is to expose the administration's clearly-established criminal negligence and probable complicity on 9/11. Mr. Ahmed's brilliant scholarly work has provided us with an indispensible tool to try to make that happen. As Leonard Lewin wrote in his political satire "Report From Iron Mountain": "A more expedient reason for pursuing the investigation of alternate ways and means to serve the current functions of war is narrowly political. It is possible that one or more major soveriegn nations may arrive, through ambiguous leadership, at a position in which a ruling administrative class may lose control of basic public opinion or of its ability to rationalize a desired war." [Iron Mountain, P. 91] Leonard writes that a transfer from a war system to a peace system carries many dangers and difficulties. But he concludes that contingency plans for a transfer to a peace system must be fully investigated and prepared for the above reason: Through ambiguous leadership, a ruling class may lose its ability to rationalize a desired war... and then peace could start breaking out all over the place whether we're ready for it or not. This is how I see the situation we're in today. The administration is going to need a Gulf of Tonkin/Pearl Harbor/Operation Northwoods to pin on Iraq, because they HAVE lost control of public opinion. And some of the credit for that goes to educators like John Leonard and Nafeez Ahmed. "If we can't criticize each other in hopes of making our work better, then, what is it we are trying to accomplish?" I quite agree, and please allow me to offer my own criticism. A derogatory phrase like "this type of posting," sounds more like an attempt to dismiss Mr. Leonard's post than an attempt to improve it. Respectfully, Buddy Grizzard ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Alan Spector" <spectors@netnitco.net> To: "Buddy Grizzard" <the_allfather@hotmail.com>, <wsn@csf.colorado.edu> Subject: Re: Anglo-German competition for Zionist support in WWI Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 23:07:32 -0500 I don't know anything about John Leonard. I did not attack him personally. I only said that the use of the term "hitler's excesses" was a terrible choice of words. It was a terrible choice of words, and I stand by my comments. Nothing else in my comments made any other criticism of John Leonard. Presumably he, and Buddy Grizzard, and all others who want to help prevent future genocides should respect a criticism in the spirit of making the movement against genocide stronger, and more able to resist the kinds of distracting counter-attacks from the rightwing that might occur when we do use words inappropriately. If we can't criticize each other in hopes of making our work better, then, what is it we are trying to accomplish? Alan Spector ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buddy Grizzard" <the_allfather@hotmail.com> To: <wsn@csf.colorado.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:38 PM Subject: Re: Anglo-German competition for Zionist support in WWI > > I know of few people who are doing more right now to prevent FUTURE > genocides than John Leonard. If you think he should have used the word > "atrocities" instead of "excesses," that's certainly a defensible opinion. > But to suggest that John is engaging in apologetics by using a milder word > than you would have preferred is simple absurdity. > > Buddy Grizzard > Press Secretary, Garrett for Governor, Georgia Green Party _________________________________________________________________ Get a speedy connection with MSN Broadband. Join now! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/freeactivation.asp
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