Re: [A-List] Re: Frank and Jones -- money and oil

At 21/11/2001 03:48, Andre Gunder Frank wrote:
>Both Frank and Jones predict doom and U.S. decline -- Frank's prediction
>is deflation and economic catastrophe, while Jones' is "entropic fascism."

Did Richard Hutchinson say this? In any case the idea that the laws of 
thermodynamics have social effects is not new and goes back to at least 
Justus von Liebig if not to Aristotle. Marx and Engels discussed entropy 
and its social consequences. Alf Hornborg has recently written good stuff 
on this, as has Stan Goff on this list.

Mark