Carl Nordlund and AG Frank right

I just want to express my support for what Carl
Nordlund and AG Frank wrote.
Clint Ballinger
--- Andre Gunder Frank <franka@fiu.edu> wrote:
> i've been thinking [not for the fist time] of doing
> the same, since i
> tire of having  routinely to press 'd' virtually
> sight unseen. but if I 
> were to see more, it would  be even worse. I'm not
> for censorship, but I 
> have proposed on previous similar occasions that the
> parties concerned
> set up their own 'system' - as my family and I have
> for our private
> concerns and discussions.
> respectfully submitted
> gunder frank
> 
> p.s. maybe Arno Tausch should set up a list-serve to
> which those of can
> subscribe who want his -virtually the only -
> valuable inputs on wsn,
> in which case those who are taking it over for their
> own purposes can
> keep it.
> agf
> 
> On
> Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Carl Nordlund wrote:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:59:56 +0200
> > From: Carl Nordlund <carl@demesta.com>
> > To: Seyed Javad <seyedjavad@hotmail.com>,
> wsn@csf.colorado.edu
> > Subject: Re: Bush caused US devastation
> > 
> > Ok, I am getting out of this list. My stomach
> can't stand any more ideologic, non-scientific and
> completely pre-analytical fundamentalism where all
> happenings are stuffed into an Archive X-style
> conspiracy framework.
> > 
> > If there still are anyone out there working with
> world system analysis and methodological questions
> regarding this, I am more than happy to initiate
> (and also host) such a mailing list.
> > 
> > Carl
> > - - -
> > MA, PhD student
> > Human Ecology Division, Lund University
> > www.humecol.lu.se
> > 
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Seyed Javad 
> >   To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu 
> >   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:02 PM
> >   Subject: Fwd: Bush caused US devastation
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   Just wanna pass this and see what you guys think
> about this:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   seyedjavad 
> >   From: "Karl Carlile" 
> >   Reply-To: "Karl Carlile" 
> >   To: 
> >   Subject: Bush caused US devastation 
> >   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:26:23 +0100 
> >   It is clear that there is a strong link between
> the kami kazi acts in the US and 
> >   the Middle East. It is clear that the
> Palestianians have been treated like pigs 
> >   by US imperialism and are now acting like pigs.
> The source of the attack on the 
> >   US buildings is the Bush administration. Bush
> armed and supported Israel and 
> >   gave the green light to Israel in relation to
> the Palestinian question --the 
> >   freedom to provoke, randomly attack and brutally
> oppress the Palestinian people. 
> >   The result is the destruction by Arabs of the
> Word Trade Centre premises and 
> >   severe damage to the Pentagon. This, in a sense,
> is an expression of the failure 
> >   and collapse of Bush foreign policy. It
> constitutes a defeat of their foreign 
> >   policy. 
> >   Now the Washington administration is hoping to
> exploit the events in such a way 
> >   as to have a pretext for more aggressive
> imperialist policies --such as further 
> >   occupations of countries that are of strategic
> significance. 
> >   The other possibility is that it was known by
> the CIA that the attacks were to 
> >   take place. The attacks were deliberately
> allowed to happen because the 
> >   devatation, it was thought, would so
> dramatically change the situation as to 
> >   provide a prectext for a more aggressive foreign
> policy involving, as I have 
> >   said, occupation of certain countries of
> strategic importance for one reason or 
> >   another. Indeed the CIA may have had plants in
> these organisations that 
> >   insituted these plans. They may have provided
> much of the resources necessary to 
> >   undertake the operation. Afterall it is
> extraordinary how such a devastating 
> >   operation was undetected. How was were hijaced
> planes able to get into this 
> >   airspace without raising any alarm. 
> >   Strange too the way the media almost right
> across the board suggested Bin Laden 
> >   was behind the operation. Surely if they have
> this kind of information they must 
> >   also then been able to preempt it. 
> >   Big powers are known to inflict damage or
> facilitate the infliction of damage on 
> >   their own population to get a pretext to take
> certain actions against an enemy 
> >   country. 
> >   Either way the Bush administration is the source
> of the problem. 
> >   Regards 
> >   Karl Carlile 
> >   Regards 
> >   Karl Carlile 
> >   Be free to join our communism mailing list 
> >   at http://homepage.eircom.net/~kampf/ 
> > 
> > 
> >
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