Re: Bush caused US devastation

i've been thinking [not for the fist time] of doing the same, since i
tire of having  routinely to press 'd' virtually sight unseen. but if I 
were to see more, it would  be even worse. I'm not for censorship, but I 
have proposed on previous similar occasions that the parties concerned
set up their own 'system' - as my family and I have for our private
concerns and discussions.
respectfully submitted
gunder frank

p.s. maybe Arno Tausch should set up a list-serve to which those of can
subscribe who want his -virtually the only - valuable inputs on wsn,
in which case those who are taking it over for their own purposes can
keep it.
agf

On
Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Carl Nordlund wrote:

> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 01:59:56 +0200
> From: Carl Nordlund <carl@demesta.com>
> To: Seyed Javad <seyedjavad@hotmail.com>, wsn@csf.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: Bush caused US devastation
> 
> Ok, I am getting out of this list. My stomach can't stand any more ideologic, 
>non-scientific and completely pre-analytical fundamentalism where all 
>happenings are stuffed into an Archive X-style conspiracy framework.
> 
> If there still are anyone out there working with world system analysis and 
>methodological questions regarding this, I am more than happy to initiate (and 
>also host) such a mailing list.
> 
> Carl
> - - -
> MA, PhD student
> Human Ecology Division, Lund University
> www.humecol.lu.se
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Seyed Javad 
>   To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu 
>   Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 11:02 PM
>   Subject: Fwd: Bush caused US devastation
> 
> 
> 
>   Just wanna pass this and see what you guys think about this:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   seyedjavad 
>   From: "Karl Carlile" 
>   Reply-To: "Karl Carlile" 
>   To: 
>   Subject: Bush caused US devastation 
>   Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 21:26:23 +0100 
>   It is clear that there is a strong link between the kami kazi acts in the 
>US and 
>   the Middle East. It is clear that the Palestianians have been treated like 
>pigs 
>   by US imperialism and are now acting like pigs. The source of the attack on 
>the 
>   US buildings is the Bush administration. Bush armed and supported Israel 
>and 
>   gave the green light to Israel in relation to the Palestinian question 
>--the 
>   freedom to provoke, randomly attack and brutally oppress the Palestinian 
>people. 
>   The result is the destruction by Arabs of the Word Trade Centre premises 
>and 
>   severe damage to the Pentagon. This, in a sense, is an expression of the 
>failure 
>   and collapse of Bush foreign policy. It constitutes a defeat of their 
>foreign 
>   policy. 
>   Now the Washington administration is hoping to exploit the events in such a 
>way 
>   as to have a pretext for more aggressive imperialist policies --such as 
>further 
>   occupations of countries that are of strategic significance. 
>   The other possibility is that it was known by the CIA that the attacks were 
>to 
>   take place. The attacks were deliberately allowed to happen because the 
>   devatation, it was thought, would so dramatically change the situation as 
>to 
>   provide a prectext for a more aggressive foreign policy involving, as I 
>have 
>   said, occupation of certain countries of strategic importance for one 
>reason or 
>   another. Indeed the CIA may have had plants in these organisations that 
>   insituted these plans. They may have provided much of the resources 
>necessary to 
>   undertake the operation. Afterall it is extraordinary how such a 
>devastating 
>   operation was undetected. How was were hijaced planes able to get into this 
>   airspace without raising any alarm. 
>   Strange too the way the media almost right across the board suggested Bin 
>Laden 
>   was behind the operation. Surely if they have this kind of information they 
>must 
>   also then been able to preempt it. 
>   Big powers are known to inflict damage or facilitate the infliction of 
>damage on 
>   their own population to get a pretext to take certain actions against an 
>enemy 
>   country. 
>   Either way the Bush administration is the source of the problem. 
>   Regards 
>   Karl Carlile 
>   Regards 
>   Karl Carlile 
>   Be free to join our communism mailing list 
>   at http://homepage.eircom.net/~kampf/ 
> 
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