Re: Kosovo and DU

  You are older than me I'd guess. You must remember the Bertrand
Russell/J.P.Sartre war crimes tribunal around '67 or so on the Vietnam War?
If folks like that could put it together, sure. (used to have a pb. of a
book published by Vintage/Random House edited by Richard Falk and G. Kolko
on War Crimes, that was a good source) But, not the Stalinists at IAC/WWP.

Michael Pugliese
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Spector <spectors@netnitco.net>
To: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU


>But do you agree that Clinton-Gore should be brought up on War Crimes
>charges for what they have done to the Iraqi people?
>
>===================================
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Pugliese" <debsian@pacbell.net>
>To: <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 11:23 AM
>Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU
>
>
>> For Alan and others...IWPR does great work. Check out the Chechnya and
>> Balkans Update lists there too. Now that B. Plavsic is on trial, I
>suspexct
>> that the former Bosnian Serb leadership around madman Karazdic is next.
>And
>> if y'all are gonna beat this dead horse about how many Kosovatrs were
>killed
>> how come no one on the hard left brings up the 200,000 killed (mostly
>> Bosnian Muslims and Croats by the Serb neo-fascists with a Red-Brown
>tinge
>> ala Milosevic et. al.) during the Bosnian cinflict from the early 90's.
>That
>> is the foreground of the later slaughter by Milosevic et. al.
>>                                         Michael Pugliese, just another
>> petty-boorrrjjjwwaaah liberal intelectual (with a just above minimum wage
>> job so I'm not sure about my P.B. class location, heh...)
>>
>>
>> TRIBUNAL UPDATE 202
>>
>> Last Week in The Hague (December 4-9, 2000)
>>
>> GENERAL KRSTIC TRIAL  - Defence witness claims Mladic's intervention
>spared
>> Srebrenica an even worse fate
>>
>> KORDIC & CERKEZ TRIAL - Final witnesses called to the stand as trial
draws
>> to a close
>>
>> TUTA AND STELA CASE - Defendant pleads not guilty to amended charges
>>
>> CROATIAN PAPERS RISK CONTEMPT CHARGES -  Croatian newspapers warned
>against
>> publishing protected witness statements
>>
>> Tribunal Update is written by IWPR senior editor Mirko Klarin, a leading
>> Hague court correspondent, and Vjera Bogati.
>>
>> ****************** VISIT IWPR ON-LINE: www.iwpr.net **********
>>
>> GENERAL KRSTIC TRIAL  -  Defence witness claims Mladic's intervention
>spared
>> Srebrenica an even worse fate
>>
>> The bloodshed in Srebrenica would have been "much worse" but for the
>> intervention of General Ratko Mladic, a defence witness in the Krstic
>trial
>> claimed last week.
>>
>> Yugoslav army general Radovan Radinovic, appearing as a military expert
>for
>> the defence, said the former Bosnian Serb army, VRS, commander altered an
>> order from the entity's president Radovan Karadzic demanding the
>> 'elimination' of the United Nations protected area.
>>
>> General Radislav Krstic, former commander of the VRS Drina Corps, is
>charged
>> with genocide for his alleged role in the Srebrenica massacres, which
>> claimed the lives of  at least 7,500 Bosnian Muslim men and boys.
Krstic's
>> defence team claim Mladic had taken over control of the Srebrenica
>operation
>> from the defendant before the killings started.
>>
>> Radinovic faced a difficult task disputing the analysis of prosecution
>> military experts, United States military intelligence analyst Richard
>Butler
>> and British Major General Richard Dannett (see Tribunal Updates Nos. 182,
>> 185 and 186).
>>
>> The witness served as a senior officer in the former Yugoslav People's
>Army
>> and its successor, the Yugoslav army. He taught at military colleges and,
>> during the Bosnian war, served as an advisor to ex federal president
>Dobrica
>> Cosic, a vocal advocate of Serbian nationalism.
>>
>> Radinovic began by challenging Butler and Dannett's claim that the
>> Srebrenica operation - code named Krivaja 95 - was well-planned, complex
>and
>> precisely executed. He also disputed the presence of an effective chain
of
>> command, with Krstic at its head.
>>
>> The witness said Krivaja 95 was "not a big military operation". He
>described
>> the battle as "small in scope and of low intensity". Progress was slow,
>> "with small losses on both sides and a very small degree of destruction."
>>
>> The aims, according to Radinovic, were to "prevent subversive terrorist
>> incursions by members of the 28th Division [of the Bosnia-Herzegovina
>Army],
>> which violated the protected zone", to sever links between the Muslim
>> enclaves of Srebrenica and Zepa, and to reduce the size of the enclave.
>>
>> These goals were achieved on July 9, 1995, Radinovic said, when units
from
>> the Drina Corps took up their planned positions on high ground around
>> Srebrenica.
>>
>> Then "a crazy plan to capture Srebrenica crossed someone's mind," the
>> witness said.
>>
>> Radinovic said the decision to press on into Srebrenica was made by
>> Karadzic, who as president of Bosnian Serbs was also supreme commander of
>> the armed forces. Radinovic's conclusion was based on an order sent to
the
>> Drina Corps forward command post on July 9, 1995, which read "the
>President
>> of the Republic approves the continuation of the attack and the entry of
>the
>> VRS into Srebrenica."
>>
>> Radinovic veers off at this point from the defence's basic argument that
>> Mladic had ordered the capture of Srebrenica and had taken over command
of
>> the operation from Krstic.
>>
>> But the witness did attribute responsibility for the crimes to the
>> politicians and the police, who were under the control of the Bosnian
Serb
>> government.
>>
>> Due to the "balance of forces" between the VRS and the BiH Army's 28th
>> Division, no soldier had considered capturing Srebrenica, Radinovic said.
>He
>> claimed BiH troops outnumbered the Bosnian Serb forces by almost 3 to 1.
>>
>> "Military doctrine," Radinovic said, dictated "attackers must
>significantly
>> outnumber defenders" in order to capture a town.
>>
>> That Srebrenica did fall, on July 11, 1995, was due more to the failings
>of
>> the 28th Division and the BiH Army's supreme command. The international
>> community was also partly responsible, he said.
>>
>> The 28th Division failed to defend the town effectively even though it
had
>> sufficient manpower and arms to hold out "long enough for the
>international
>> community to get involved," Radinovic said.
>>
>> A decisive defence of the town would have forced the UN mechanism to act,
>> Radinovic argued. He said the international community's decision not to
>take
>> any action was "irresponsible".
>>
>> Radinovic said blame rested not only with the Dutch UN Protection Force
>> Battalion in Srebrenica, but also with the then High Representative Carl
>> Bildt, UN Representative Yasushi Akashi and the commander of UN forces in
>> Bosnia, British General Rupert Smith.
>>
>> Had these officials come to Srebrenica on July 11 and 12, 1995, the
>> 'consequences' of the town's capture could have been avoided, Radinovic
>> said.
>>
>> Radinovic did not deny the mass execution of prisoners of war, but said
>most
>> of the casualties were the result of heavy fighting between Drina corps
>> units and troops of the 28th BiH Army division, which were trying to
break
>> through to Tuzla.
>>
>> "The intensity of the fighting was so great," Radinovic said, "it is
>> realistic to express the losses in the thousands, rather than hundreds."
>>
>> He criticised VRS headquarters for failing to "register properly" where
>BiH
>> Army soldiers were buried. Radinovic said those BiH officers responsible
>for
>> the decision to try and break through VRS lines must have realised what
>the
>> likely consequences would be and that they had in effect "sacrificed the
>> 28th Division."
>>
>> That the bulk of the Drina Corps was involved in an operation near Zepa
>was
>> "lucky", Radinovic said, otherwise the losses experienced by those trying
>to
>> get to Tuzla "would have been even graver."
>>
>> Radinovic faced three and half days of cross-examination by prosecutors
>last
>> week. British Major Andrew Caley led the prosecution's questioning.
>>
>> Caley immediately homed in on the directive from Karadzic, issued in June
>> 1995. Radinovic described the directive as a "list of desirable aims" and
>> not as a binding order governing military operations.
>>
>> In the directive, Karadzic called for "daily planned and thought out
>combat
>> operations" to create "conditions and total insecurity, intolerability
and
>> make impossible the further survival of life of the inhabitants in
>> Srebrenica and Zepa."
>>
>> Under pressure from the judges, Radinovic was forced to agree with the
>> prosecutor this was a directive "to eliminate the Srebrenica enclave."
>>
>> But Radinovic insisted Mladic, in his order (directive 7.1), had changed
>the
>> Karadzic directive, deliberately replacing the phrase "elimination of
>> Srebrenica" with "active military actions around the enclave" because he
>> understood all too well what Karadzic's order could lead to.
>>
>> "It was good that he did," said Radinovic, "because the consequences
would
>> have been much worse."
>>
>>
>> KORDIC & CERKEZ TRIAL - Final witnesses called to the stand as trial
draws
>> to a close
>>
>> The trial of Dario Kordic and Mario Cerkez, accused of crimes against
>> Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) civilians in central Bosnia, is finally drawing
>to
>> a close.
>>
>> Final witnesses in the 19-month long case were called last week and
>closing
>> arguments from the prosecution and defence counsels are scheduled for
>> December 14 and 15.
>>
>> The final prosecution witness was Halid Genjac, a member of the
>> Bosnia-Herzegovina tripartite presidency. During the Bosnian war, Genjac
>was
>> president of the Bosniak Muslim Party of Democratic Action, SDA, in
>Travnik.
>>
>> "From the beginning, the HDZ [Croatian Democratic Union] obstructed
>> municipal political life," Genjac said. "That ended in complete
blockade."
>>
>> In 1992, he said, "a kind of ultimatum" was issued demanding Bosniaks
join
>> the Croatian Defence Force, or HVO. "We stressed recognition of the HVO
>> government would be unconstitutional. The government in Travnik could not
>be
>> named after only one people."
>>
>> According to Genjac, the only legal institutions in the town were the
>> municipal presidency and the executive board.
>>
>> Kordic, as former vice-president of the so-called Croatian Community of
>> Herceg-Bosna and of the HDZ in Bosnia-Herzegovina, is charged with making
>> the most important political decisions in central Bosnia.
>>
>> The defence claim Kordic exercised no political power. Genjac, however,
>said
>> the local Croatian leadership in Travnik "asked or quoted Kordic."
>>
>> Last week, the judges also accepted as evidence several documents gleaned
>> from Croatian archives.
>>
>> Of the large volume of material submitted by the prosecution, only 16
>> documents were accepted by the judges as meeting their strict criteria
for
>> the admission of new evidence at such a late stage in proceedings.
>>
>> The documents - HVO reports, orders and the logbook of the HVO central
>> Bosnia command - were deemed "sufficiently significant" for their
adoption
>> at such a late stage in the trial.
>>
>> At this stage, it is difficult to assess the new evidence presented
>because
>> not all the exhibits were read out in public and some of the
prosecution's
>> witnesses did not testify in open court.
>>
>> The new evidence includes allegations concerning Kordic's participation
at
>a
>> meeting of central Bosnia political and military leaders in Vitez on
April
>> 15, 1993 - the eve of the Lasva valley HVO offensive.
>>
>> It is alleged those at the meeting laid down plans for the attacks
against
>> Bosniaks the following day.
>>
>> Kordic's defence team called three witnesses, HVO political and military
>> officials, to testify that the accused was not present at the meeting and
>> that they also knew nothing of it.
>>
>> Cerkez's lawyers focused on evidence implicating the accused in
organising
>> the attack on Ahmici on April 16, 1993, which left over 100 Bosniak
>> civilians dead.
>>
>> The defence argued that reports sent by Cerkez, then commander of the HVO
>> Vitez brigade, to his superiors about the "advances of the HVO forces on
>> Ahmici" did not imply the defendant knew of or had responsibility for the
>> massacre in the village.
>>
>>
>> TUTA AND STELA CASE - Defendant pleads not guilty to amended charges
>>
>> Mladen "Tuta" Naletilic and Vinko "Stela" Martinovic pleaded not guilty
>last
>> week to amended charges concerning their alleged abuse of prisoners.
>>
>> The two men were accused of forcing prisoners to carry out dangerous
>> military tasks such as transporting ammunition across front lines and
>> drawing enemy fire.
>>
>> The charges constitute violations of the laws or customs of war and -
>> following an amendment to the indictment relating to "dangerous and
>> humiliating labour" - grave breaches of the Geneva Convention.
>>
>> Naletilic, former commander of the Convicts' Battalion, and Martinovic,
>> former commander of the battalion's anti-terrorist unit, are accused of
>> persecuting Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) in and around Mostar in 1993 and
>> early 1994.
>>
>> The prosecution claims the defendants were responsible for attacks on
>> civilians, illegal detention of civilians and of inhuman treatment of
>> prisoners under their control. They are also charged with murder, the
>forced
>> expulsion of people and theft.
>>
>> Martinovic and Naletilic pleaded not guilty to all the original charges
>> during their initial hearings shortly after their arrival at The Hague.
>> Croatia extradited Martinovic in August 1999 and Naletilic in March 2000.
>>
>> Trial preparations are still underway. Pre-trial judge Patricia Wald has
>> asked the prosecution to reduce the number of witnesses it plans to call
>to
>> between 50 and 60 and for the prosecution and defence to aim to present
>> their respective cases within ten weeks.
>>
>> One unresolved pre-hearing issue is the prosecution's intention to
include
>> as material evidence affidavits from witnesses scheduled to be
interviewed
>> by representatives from the prosecutor's office.
>>
>> Martinovic is demanding to be present when the witnesses give their
>> statements, because he argues this would contribute to their accuracy and
>> reliability.
>>
>> The start date for the trial has yet to be set. "What we can say now is
>that
>> this chamber will tell both sides some time in March when this trial will
>> begin," presiding judge Almiro Rodrigues said.
>>
>> The three trial judges have said on several occasions the cases could be
>> heard by a different trial chamber due to their already pressing workload
>> with the Srebrenica and Omarska hearings. Given the recent announcement
of
>> 27 additional temporary judges for the tribunal, a change of chamber
looks
>> even more likely.
>>
>>
>> CROATIAN PAPERS RISK CONTEMPT CHARGES - Croatian newspapers warned
against
>> publishing protected witness statements
>>
>> Two Croatian newspapers, the weekly Globus and the daily paper Slobodna
>> Dalmacija, could face contempt of court charges following their
>publication
>> of statements by Croatian President Stipe Mesic during a closed tribunal
>> hearing in 1998.
>>
>> The statements were given by Mesic in April 1998 during the trial of
>former
>> Bosnian Croat commander Tihomir Blaskic. Mesic was given protected status
>> and allowed to give evidence in a closed session.
>>
>> On December 1, the tribunal judges which originally heard the Blaskic
>case,
>> issued an order requesting the Croatian papers stop publishing statements
>by
>> protected witnesses. The order warned, "any publication of these
>statements
>> and testimonies shall expose its authors and those responsible to be
found
>> in contempt of the tribunal."
>>
>> The court also asked the Croatian authorities to take steps to halt
>further
>> publication of the statements.
>>
>> But on December 6, Slobodna Dalmacija published another transcript from a
>> closed court session involving the Croatian president. In his
introduction
>> to the story, the newspaper's editor- in-chief, Josip Jovic, said he had
>> disregarded the Tribunal's order because "there is an understandable
>public
>> interest in The Hague testimony of the current head of state."
>>
>> "The institution of keeping secrets does not apply to newspapers," Jovic
>> added.
>>
>> The tribunal has yet to react to the Slobodna Dalmacija article.
>>
>> Tribunal spokesman Jim Landale said publication of protected material was
>> "foolish and irresponsible". He reiterated the publication of such
>material
>> could constitute contempt of court. "It is up to the trial chamber to
take
>> what measures it thinks necessary," Landale said, adding this could
>include
>> summoning a person to The Hague to respond to contempt of court charges.
>>
>> On December 7, the Croatian government said it had no information on how
>the
>> newspapers got hold of Mesic's testimony. It said the government did not
>> have cited minutes of Mesic's court appearance and did not know who the
>> sources of such disclosures could be.
>>
>> Immediately after Mesic appeared at The Hague, material relating to his
>> testimony leaked to the Croatian press. The reappearance of stories two
>> years on, and well into Mesic's presidency, suggests the revelations have
>> more to do with Croatian domestic politics than anything else.
>>
>> Criticism in Croatia that the Tribunal court order amounted to
>"censorship"
>> and "interference with the freedom of the media" met short shrift from
>> prosecutor's office spokeswoman Florence Hartmann.
>>
>> "Publishing information given to the Tribunal through testimonies is not
a
>> problem - their content will be known to the public through the court
>> sentences in any case," Hartmann said. "But the problem is when a witness
>> who gave them is identified because that will affect the readiness of
>other
>> witnesses to make a statement before the Tribunal."
>>
>> "The publication of protected witnesses' names only makes it harder for
>> prosecutors to collect information on crimes, and hence in establishing
>the
>> truth and administering justice."
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alan Spector <spectors@netnitco.net>
>> To: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
>> Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU
>>
>>
>> >Immediately just before the NATO bombing on Yugoslavia began, the
reports
>> >were that 2,000 Kosovar Albanians had been murdered over the past two
>years
>> >and that as many as 50,000, perhaps even 100,000 were about to be
>murdered.
>> >After the bombing, there was a massive forced displacement of Kosovar
>> >Albanians, including the murders of an unknown number.  Despite the best
>> >efforts of U.S. technology, including FBI forensic experts, satellite
>> >photos, etc, current estimates of bodies found range between 600 and
>2,000,
>> >and some of them might be Serbian victims.  Somewhere between 500 and
>1500
>> >Yugoslavians were killed as a direct result of the NATO bombing, and it
>is
>> >difficult to estimate how many more deaths will result from the
>> consequences
>> >of bombing roads and bridges, which doubtless has caused more deaths as
>> >people in critical situations may be unable to get quick medical care.
>> >
>> >About the two years prior to the bombing and the initial US/NATO
>rationale
>> >of two thousand murders -- Kosovo has about 2 million people. Two
>thousand
>> >constitutes a murder rate of one/thousand, over two years.  Gary,
Indiana
>> >which adjoins my city of Hammond, has about 100,000 people and
>> approximately
>> >one hundred murders per year, or about one/thousand over one year. Gary
>has
>> >twice the murder rate that Kosovo had.
>> >
>> >But that was enough of an excuse for US/NATO which was carrying on the
>> older
>> >imperial British strategy of destabilizing regions to keep them weak and
>> >vulnerable, without actually having to physically occupy them.
>> >
>> >It is true that some Serb military forces did commit war crimes. No
doubt
>> >there were individual soldiers, even perhaps some high ranking military
>> >officers who approved the execution of civilians. But nothing like the
>> >ridiculous lies we were fed about 25,000 or 50,000. And if "depleted
>> >uranium" does cause cancer among civilians, if various other actions
such
>> as
>> >bombing chemical plants caused civilian deaths, then the charge of "war
>> >crimes" must be applied to the US/NATO effort. And all this pales in
>> >comparison to the massive civilian deaths caused by the US led embargo
>> >against the Iraqi people, and of course the Vietnam War. And how come
>> people
>> >are developing amnesia about the massive civilian deaths the U.S.
>military
>> >caused in Vietnam, as well as destabilizing the rest of Southeast Asia
>and
>> >laying the basis for many more outside Vietnam?  Why are people who
>condemn
>> >imperialism considered "fringe" or "hysterical"?  Because the mainstream
>> >liberal intellectuals serve their masters by lying outright in
propaganda
>> >service to these mass murderers. And no, that's not exaggeration.
>> >
>> >Alan Spector
>> >
>> >
>> >Alan Spector
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: <franka@fiu.edu>
>> >To: <wwagar@binghamton.edu>
>> >Cc: <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
>> >Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 7:23 PM
>> >Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU
>> >
>> >
>> >> everything warren says is right - except the second sentence.
>> >> there is no evidence of any such campaign, and the NATO/Brit "defense'
>> >> minister-now NATO head's, claim of 10,000 then 100,000 Albian
massacred
>> at
>> >> Serb hands has turned out by Nato and other forenscic teams to have
>been
>> >> less  than 2,000 - far too many but far fewer  than necessary to whip
>up
>> >> popular support for the NATO mission = to expand eastward, and of the
>> >> 2,000 many were Albanian combatants and others probably were also
>> >> Serbs. And as to the alleged Serb plan that Warren refers to,
>> >> 1. the Germans invented an alleged such plan, which was then shown to
>be
>> a
>> >> hoax, even in leaked German foreing ministry reports and [all another
>> >> Tonkin Gulf and incubator babies in Kuwait]
>> >> 2. many Albanians fled into Serbia - from NATO!
>> >>
>> >> to beOn Sun, 14 Jan 2001 wwagar@binghamton.edu wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:37:08 -0500 (EST)
>> >> > From: wwagar@binghamton.edu
>> >> > To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu
>> >> > Subject: Kosovo and DU
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > The well-deserved flap about DU should not obscure the fundamental
>> >> > evil involved in the U.S./NATO rampage against Serbia.  I do not
>doubt
>> >> > that Serbia had in mind a campaign that would drive many ethnic
>> >Albanians
>> >> > over the border, with ethnic Albanian casualties in the process pour
>> >> > encourager les autres.  The U.S. once engaged in "Indian wars" to
>> effect
>> >> > the same result.  Be that as it may.
>> >> >
>> >> > The real point is that the United States and its "allies"
>> >> > intervened in the affairs of a Balkan republic in the hope of
>teaching
>> a
>> >> > lesson, to wit:  do not adjust your television sets, we are in
>control,
>> >> > and we will bomb into submission anybody who resists us.  If it
helps
>> us
>> >> > to demolish your tanks by resorting to nuclear weapons, so be it.
We
>> >are
>> >> > above the law, if law there be, and we will use our technology to
>slice
>> >> > you to ribbons.  Should any civilians on the ground die in the
>process,
>> >so
>> >> > much the worse for them!  We're not trying to save them, anyway,
>we're
>> >> > trying to assert our hegemony.  Should any of our precious
>peacekeepers
>> >> > die in the process, well, we never promised them a rose garden.
>> >Besides,
>> >> > they're not us!  They're expendable, right?
>> >> >
>> >> > Of course the ultimate jest is the "D" in "DU."  The uranium is
>> >> > depleted for any serious use in weapons or energy production, but if
>it
>> >> > remains radioactive for several millennia, hey, that's life!  Or
>> >> > half-life.  Or death. ...
>> >> >
>> >> > Yours in disgust,
>> >> >
>> >> > Warren
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >>
>> >>                  ANDRE  GUNDER  FRANK
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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