re: expansionist phases

Fri, 27 Jun 1997 17:01:06 -0600 (NSK)
Nikolai S. Rozov (ROZOV@cnit.nsu.ru)

Dear Gunder

I have no problem with this advantage.
Some days ago i've read a paper of
one Russian orientalist Petrov who in the beginning of 1980th made a review
of several hundreds publications (since XVIII) in Russia concerning
transnational trade in the East and he maintains that all data say that the
West overtook the East (in quantity, diversity, quality of goods) only up to
1830-50, not earlier.

the dominance and advantages that i had in mind concern only European
oicumena (f.e. technological advantage of Florence over France in 15-16,
Netherlands over Spain in 16-17, England over rest Europe in 18-19)

at the same time wide and successful colonial expansion of Portugal, then
Netherlands and England in the Indian Ocean bassein shows that at
least in one aspect - navy (military technologies + efficient
regular trans-ocean transportation)
Europeans HAD advantages over Asians (Arabs, Indians and Turks) even in 16-
18c.

am i not right?

best regards,
nikolai

Gunder Frank:
>
> Nicolai is discussiing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin,
> since these Eurpean places, etc did NOT have the technological
> advanmtages and much less dominance over Asian ones before 1800, as I
> have argued and 'demonstrated' ad nauseum on another net, and could
> cross-post to this one if there is any interest.
> gunder frank
>