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What really is Andre Gunder Frank's position on worlds? by Elson Boles 12 August 2003 14:54 UTC |
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Dear Gunder, I've been working on an article for Review since about the time we both presented at an ISA panel in Chicago, Feb 2001 (I presented on the Japan-US silknetwork and published my paper in JWSR.) A heavy teaching load keeps me from finishing this article (and much else). When assessing your and Gills arguments, it is sometimes necessary to distinguish the literal word with the spirit of intention (or the content). An recent example is found in WSN in which you audaciously claim: In reality, there are and have been NO civilizations, societies, cultures, ethnicities and even states in and of themselves. There are NO such essentialist intrinsically self-contained entities. To claim, identify, and study any such makes NO sense whatsoever and only beclouds reality. There are only connections and relations within and among such alleged civilizations. However, the spirit of the words is later qualified: "I dont deny existence of culgture, of cousre not, but evidence suggests that it is not a much causative element of what happens. Structure is mucg mnore so." This particular subject of structure and agency isn't part of my essay. However, what is concerns the temporal and spatial boundaries of your and Gills 5000 year old system. Let me switch to the third-person. Frank very frequent uses the term "global" in characterizing the difference of your and IW's views, but he doesn't literally mean the globe which implies the entire planet. The spirit of the term, and sometimes alternative wording like "Eurasian world system," indicates that Gills and Frank's world system is smaller than the entire planet. Another example is that in one essay Gills and Frank write: However, the 'New World' in the 'Americas' was of course home to some world-systems of its own before its incorporation into our (pre-existing) world system after 1492 (Frank and Gills 1996: 3). Clearly, their use the term "world-system" (with hyphen), must be an editorial error. And Barry has confirmed this in correspondence with me. But this issue has led to confusion for many, including Wallerstein, who incorrectly contended that, "They use the singular because, for them, there is and has been only one world system through all of historical time and space" and "They cannot conceive of multiple 'world-systems' coexisting on the planet" (1996 [1991]: 294, 295). There is evidence in Gills and Frank's writings to the contrary, including the statement about the "belated incorporated Americas after 1492 and of Oceania after 1760." The question then is what was in the Americas prior to that? So, I put these more general questions to AGF: 1. Do you see other "world systems" existing coterminous with the Eurasian world system of ReOrient? 2. At some point in time in human history, do you not acknowledge the existence of systems (and more of them) smaller than your large world systems? 3. If so, what do you call them if not bands, tribes, chiefdoms, or networks, or "mini-systems"? If not, then what? 4. Is it not the case that you use the same criteria as Wallerstein (a division of labor) to measure the boundaries of your systems in time and space? Elson E. Boles Assistant Professor Sociology Saginaw Valley State University
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