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Re: pragmatic proof of the existence of global class conflict
by Alan Spector
06 April 2002 21:22 UTC
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There is no question that there is "global class conflict" in the sense that
capitalists from various countries are exploiting people all over the world.
And there is no question that the fundamental contradiction of exploiter and
exploited underlies other conflicts.

The question is whether or not there are all kinds of intermediary
structures and contradictions which can be the primary factors in particular
situations. Or, in the context of this discussion, if nations will
"disappear" and there will be just one GREAT BIG EXPLOITER CLASS and one
GREAT BIG EXPLOITED CLASS.  That may be the "ultimate logic" of the
situation, but the "ultimate logic" does not take into account
contradictions which are intensified by limits. (The "ultimate logic" of a
baby that grows from 7 pounds to 14 pounds in six months is that it will
weigh something like 1,000 pounds by the time it is only five years

Capitalists fight among themselves, no matter how hard they try to form
lasting alliances. Different parts of the world is more interconnected than
ever before, but yet conflict flares up. Economic interests need
political-military power to maintain their economic strength. Nation-states,
with all their flexibilities, their comings into being, dissolutions,
coalitions, civil wars, annexations, secessions, redrawn borders, etc. will
still exist in some form or another as long as class conflict exists, which
will be as long as classes exist.

Alan Spector


----- Original Message -----
From: "g kohler" <kohlerg@3web.net>
To: <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:45 PM
Subject: pragmatic proof of the existence of global class conflict

> pragmatic proof of the existence of global class conflict
> Here are a few observations which suggest that a global class conflict
> exists - if not in reality, then at least in the minds and the behaviour
> of the global elites.
> (a) Bill Gates (Microsoft) started to think about global inequality. A
> year or two ago he had a weak moment when he realized that his software
> cannot be sold to the global masses because they don't have electricity
> or telephones and don't even have money.
> (b) George Soroos, successful financial capitalist, started to write,
> about five years ago, that the global capitalist system has problems.
> Most recently he wrote that markets can almost never be trusted to get
> things right.
> (c) Professor Kanbur, World Bank special investigator on global poverty,
> was dismissed by the World Bank (on US insistence) for formulating
> findings which were contrary to global elite interests.
> (d) Stiglitz, Nobel-prize winning World Bank reject, came out with a
> global-Keynesian proposal to use massive injections of SDRs (Special
> Drawing Rights = truly global money) in order to begin reversing global
> inequity and stabilising the world economy.
> (e) World Bank and US government circles, as well as French President
> Chirac, have begun to perceive global poverty as the breeding ground of
> global terrorism.
> (f) Canadian Prime Minister Chretien and his finance minister are
> promoting an aid-for-Africa agenda.
> (g) Recent US military doctrine lists several countries as potential
> targets of US nuclear force. They all happen to be countries located in
> the semi-periphery of the world.
> While the expression of  "global class conflict" is missing in the
> dictionary of the leftist intelligentsia, global elites are already
> perceiving it and reacting to it.
> Gernot Kohler
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