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Re: Reply to Adam Starr about "activist demonstrations" by Threehegemons 18 March 2002 03:00 UTC |
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<Your critique of my question leads to what I initally stated about 'activist demonstrations'. They are mainly 'symbolic'. Thus, I maintain that they don't amount to major policy change.> Briefly, I think you're naive about the relationship between 'the real' and the 'symbolic'. Everyone--Bush, or bin Laden, or 'us', needs to organize symbolically in order to have some unity. The terrorists attacks did not 'initiate changes' in any meaningful sense. Entrenched power structures (i.e. the US state) acted in ways which were fairly predictable in light of recent behaviors. Bombing countries, ratcheting up police state aspects--these are continuous with policies that have been evolving for the last ten (or twenty) years. Could go back further, but I think the bombing of Panama marked something of a departure (in tactics, not goals). The policy changes--bombing rather than low-intensity warfare, the move towards more of a police state--over the last ten years, accelerating since 9/11, were the product of debates within ruling circles, think tank activity, etc. If you don't have these means, you're probably going to have to try to change things the hard way--by organizing social movements... The US was 'losing' the Vietnam war in the sense that the army was increasingly mutinuous, and there was considerable concern about ongoing unrest at home. In terms of the latter, the anti-war movement made a real contribution. The actual position of the army in Vietnam wasn't getting dramatically worse, and for this reason the American right has never understood why the US 'let' them win. Who in the world do you think the 'we' that is going to change the world, in any way, is? I'm all for debating tactics or even goals, but I think the 'who' would be, for starters, the global community thats emerged, in part, in the wake of the Seattle, Genoa, etc. This subject didn't emerge out of nowhere, but came together through a number of developments, 'real' and 'symbolic'. It will need plenty of more 'symbols' to maintain some degree of unity over the years. And if you don't like this subject, and want to construct a different one, you're going to have to deploy some symbols of your own so that those who you see as 'us' will be able to figure out who they are. Steven Sherman
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