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Re: Mike Alexander/Social Science ... Addendum to "Is" by Luke Rondinaro 17 December 2001 04:11 UTC |
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Yes, the matter pretty much comes down to “facts” and empirical investigation. But, even as we’re considering fundamental terms and principles of factual evidence in a scientific context, are the “facts” themselves really part of “is” or does the word- categorization “is” really belong to the object itself along with its phenomena and processes? Certainly “facts” as the result of an empirical data-gathering project are themselves not too much of a problem; they represent aspects of the phenomena/ processes of the object in question. But as soon as they are formulated into the basest form of knowledge – which we conveniently call “facts” also - they pose a dilemma. Are these “facts” in the secondary sense of the word, necessarily accurate and are they, hence, necessarily a part of “is?”
If they are to be considered a form of knowledge – even as raw data – then it means there is still a wide disconnect between the manifestation of the object’s phenomena/processes and the measurements we as scientists take in the course of our research. Empirical observations are fine, measurements are fine, and the instruments used to take those measurements are fine also; I’m not saying they aren’t. But at some point, we’re faced with the quandary à [Are the senses themselves (by which we make our empirically-based observations) reliable? Are our empirical methods valid? Can we accurately determine what the facts are (let alone what the “truth” is)? ] If we answer the question by saying “Let’s do more tests”, then we’re left with a tautology. The only way out of this mess (that I can see) is by acknowledging that at some level the senses are reliable and that the human mind can come to an understanding of “truth” regarding reality, the universe, the world, and so on. {At a particular juncture, we must accept these as fundamental axioms/postulates and, then, go on with our tests, trying in as much as possible to avoid obvious errors as we proceed along in our research.} We must be willing to accept some first principles in our studies even if all they end up consisting of are: “empirical tests determine the validity of the senses and the facts” & “the senses, the facts, and the circumstances from which they derive help to determine the validity of one’s empirial research over time.” Perhaps the facts themselves (in the first sense I described) operate as our first principles (…)
In any case, I still agree with M.A. The matter pretty much comes down to “facts” and how we get them via empirical investigation.
<All knowledge contains assertions that are assumed to be true (that is a fact), which are not actual empirical facts. Hence all knowledge is a description of what we currently believe to be what is. >
Thanks for a very thought provoking reply to my “Addendum to Is” piece. Best!
Luke Rondinaro
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