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In a message dated 7/22/01 10:23:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, wilpert@cantv.net writes: << Subj: Re: Hardt & Negri on Genoa Date: 7/22/01 10:23:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: wilpert@cantv.net (Gregory Wilpert) Sender: wsn-owner@csf.colorado.edu Reply-to: wilpert@people-link.net To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu ('WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK') > > > Secondly, just because the new > > >world order is no longer neatly parcellized into sovereign > > >territorial units doesn't mean it is non-hierarchical. In fact, > > >Negri and Hardt make this argument quite explicitly. To > them, the US > > >represents the first tier of Empire (with fundamentalisms > and various > > >NGOs filling out the lower tiers). > > > > There is no textual support for this interpretation. > > There is none because my library copy has been recalled, so I > have nothing to refer to right now. If you have one, look it > up, I assure you it's there. > > -- > Boris Stremlin The passage being referred to here is, I believe, on page 309 and following, under the heading, "The Pyramid of Global Constitution" "At the narrow pinnacle of the pyramid there is one superpower, the United States, that holds the hegemony over the global use of force. . . On a second level, still within this first tier, as the pyramid broadens slightly, a group of nation-states control the primary global monetary instruments and thus have the ability to regulate international exchanges. I don't understand--how does one analyze the tensions between the US and Europe--over Kyoto and missile defense, or the even more obvious tensions between the US and Russia/China over the use of force etc with this framework? ... Below the highest tier of unified global command is a second tier in which command is distributed broadly across the world, emphasizing not so much unification as articulation. (...) The singe and univocal pinnacle of world command is thus articulated by the transnational corporations and the organization of markets. ... Still on the second tier, on a level that is often subordinated to the power of transnational corporations, reside the general set of sovereign nation-states that now consist essentially in local, territorialized organizations. ... The third and broadest tier of the pyramid, finally, consists of groups that represent popular interests in the global power arrangement." (p.309-311) Does that mean that, by definition, Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro are in the second tier, and only those who do not operate through states constitute the third? But then how does one conceptualize the many popular movements that also have electoral agendas (for example, the Workers Party in Brazil)? Steven Sherman I hope this helps. Greg Wilpert ---------------------------------- Gregory Wilpert Visiting Fulbright Professor Escuela de Sociología Universidad Central de Venezuela ---------------------------------- ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: <wsn-owner+M2065@csf.colorado.edu> Received: from rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (rly-yg03.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.3]) by air-yg01.mail.aol.com (v79.27) with ESMTP id MAILINYG15-0722132328; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 13:23:28 -0400 Received: from csf.colorado.edu (csf.colorado.edu [128.138.129.195]) by rly-yg03.mx.aol.com (v79.20) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYG310-0722132311; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 13:23:11 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=csf.colorado.edu) by csf.colorado.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #2) id 15OMwf-00030J-00; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:23:09 -0600 Received: from rs1s2.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (rs1s2-b.datacenter.cha.cantv.net [200.44.32.57]) by csf.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/csf) with ESMTP id f6MFXGq00972 for <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 09:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from gregorywilpert (as1r9-162.ras.cha.cantv.net [200.44.6.162]) by rs1s2.datacenter.cha.cantv.net (8.10.2/8.10.2/2.0) with ESMTP id f6MFXE831166 for <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:33:14 -0400 Reply-To: <wilpert@people-link.net> From: "Gregory Wilpert" <wilpert@cantv.net> To: "'WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK'" <wsn@csf.colorado.edu> Subject: Re: Hardt & Negri on Genoa Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:34:15 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c112c3$c7b2efc0$a2062cc8@gregorywilpert> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-reply-to: <Pine.GSO.BU-L4.10.10107211655100.17960-100000@bingsun2> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by csf.colorado.edu id f6MFXIq00973 Precedence: bulk Sender: wsn-owner@csf.colorado.edu >>
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