Kosovo and DU

I agree with Alan here. As usual, Micheal Puglisie comes up with
conspiracy theories of the kind the United States government and NATO
subscribe--humanist imperialism the best!

For what had really happened in Yugo & NATO directed war against
Yugoslavian people, I recommend list members to check out Jared Isreal's
Boston based journal _Emperor's Clothes_. You can find more objective
information there, more so useful than  NATO  based stories. I have sent
few excerpts already..


Mine


Alan Spector wrote:

> There is no question that Serb military authorities were involved in
some
> civilian mass murders. Bosnia was a much  worse, and more complex, war

than
> Kosovo. How and why it was provoked is more complex than just saying,
as the
> media does, that the Serbs were bloodthirsty for no reason. What would

the
> U.S. government do if Florida tried to secede?  Or Chicago? It is the
> one-sided ease that some people accept U.S. imperialism's propaganda
that
> bothers me. And obviously, Dissent magazine has a long history of
defending
> the AFL-CIO (CIA's) support of fascist regimes. It's nice that you
opposed
> the Panama invasion, although in all your words, I still haven't seen
the
> fundamental condemnation of U.S. imperialism, including
> Carter-Reagan-Bush-Clinton expressed with the same energy as your
> crititicism of murderer Milosevic.
>
> I don't know anything about you, Michael, so you needn't carry on
about your
> credentials. I'm not attacking your character or you personally.  I
have
> been discussing the ideology of allying with liberal imperialism as
the
> lesser evil when in fact, it is the imperialist policies from economic

> destruction to physical destruction that is, quantitatively, the
greater
> evil.  Qualitatively, or fundamentally, all those imperialists, from
> Milosevic to Clinton, are equally bad.
>
> Alan Spector
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Pugliese" <debsian@pacbell.net>
> To: <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 12:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alan Spector <spectors@netnitco.net>
> > To: Michael Pugliese <debsian@pacbell.net>
> > Cc: WORLD SYSTEMS NETWORK <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
> > Date: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: Kosovo and DU
> >
> >
> > >and while we are at it, there was quite a massacre and displacement

of
> > Serbs
> > >in Bosnia, wasn't there? Calling the lies about how many Kosovars
were
> > >killed a "dead horse" is treating rather lightly such a Big Lie.
> >
> >    Estimates I've seen (groups from which I'm sure you would
consider
> biased
> > like Human Rights Watch, Amnesty Int'l. , IWPR), put the total # of
> > civilians killed from '92-'95 in the range of 200,000 in the Bosnian

> > cinflict. The overwhelming # were Muslim and secondarily the
Croatians.
> > Wanna cite some #'s and sources of dead Bosnian Serbs?
> > >
> > >and then there's the Panama Invasion, about 3,000 mainly civilian
dead by
> > >U.S. military intervention.  The epithet of "Stalinist" can carry a

> > >pro-liberal argument just so far.
> > >
> >    Yup, I've seen The Panama Deception. Even talked to the director,



--
Mine Aysen Doyran
Ph.D Student
Department of Political Science
SUNY at Albany
Nelson A. Rockefeller College
135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
Albany, NY 12222



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