Re: David Bohm and Dialogue - Meeting Face-to-face - Holodynamics& What

>Capitalism is a very immature response to economic needs -- as long as
>'we the people' buy into 'capitalism' as consumers (and as a viable
>system) we show our own immaturity as well.  The mature action here is to
>'call the game' -- stop being 'consumers' -- by taking direct action we
>begin to take our power back.  Without consumers, capitalism cannot
>exist. 
>
As I tried to draw out in a previous thread (theory and praxis) - why 
is it (in general terms) that 'the public' buy  in to capitalism and 
consumerism and do not challenge it? Do they elect to be consumers, 
or is it something they are not aware of? Is consumerism the only 
reality for them? Why is it the vast majority of the occidental 
population are not willing to take action to undermine and destroy 
consumerism? Why is it many (but my no mean all) in the South aspire 
to this consumerism? - especially those with the power? As Marguerite 
suggests, without consumers capitalism would at best not exist and at 
the very least, be severely undermined. Therein lies the course to a 
better world - how one goes about this of course, is unclear, 
uncertain, and by no means assured.

One thing is clear (IMHO): it will not be arrived at by grandiose 
projects or idealism. There will be, as others on this list have 
suggested, no quick fix or magical cure. The emancipation of 
humankind from both capitalism and imperialism will be a long and 
painful process. We can at least seek some comfort in that the 
process has started - though how the process will develop and the 
course it will take are yet to avail themselves.

The communication and collaboration of small focal-specific and 
locale-specific organisations, collectives, syndicates and 
individuals, is the process by which any increase in a more equitable 
and sustainable distribution of world development will be arrived at 
- people will have to put their idealisms and probably some of their 
beliefs on the shelf and work towards a goal based on general mutual 
interests and ambitions - the overthrow of capitalism and imperialism.

As more of a doer than a thinker, I shall now go and put the 
finishing touches to my new  (hopefully) 'centripetally' acting 
initiative that you are all welcome to use to help network and share 
knowledge with like-minded organsations, collectives and individuals. 
This initiative is not an organisation and there is no membership. 
You do not have to subscribe to a particular ideology, and we do not 
make any claims to change the world overnight. Whilst it may be 
considered to be an innovative initiative in many ways, it is 
certainly not original nor does it claim to be unique. It simply 
exists to foster and encourage communication and collaboration, and 
to share and disseminate knowledge that might bring about a more 
equitable and just world. Details will follow when it is ready.

Be green, be red, be black, be radical, be non-violent, be 
anarchical, be spiritual, be theoretical, be academic, be activist, 
but whatever you be, be collaborative and mutually respectful.

PB.