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Re: David Bohm and Dialogue - Meeting Face-to-face - Holodynamics & What Next

by Marguerite M Hampton

19 December 2000 04:59 UTC



Dear Sabri, 

Your situation there is very difficult, and I want you to know that I
feel your pain -- I cannot physically reach out and touch you and embrace
you, but I can hold you close in my thoughts.  What we can do here is to
unite in our mind and visualize a world of peace in which we have social,
environmental and economic justice -- bringing out thoughts into
alignment.  If enough people join us and we hold this vision in our
collective mind's eye, then it will become a reality.  So if you will
reach out to all the people you know and encourage them to do this, I
will reach out to all the people I know and encourage them.  Together we
can change the world. 

With your situation, this is where 'alignment' is so important -- and I'm
speaking of the 'alignment' of all of those in the world who oppose
exploitation such as is happening there in Turkey.  We must all come
together united in effort to 'call the game.'

Although exploitation has gone on for centuries, I do believe that today
the United States is the unsatiable 'belly of the beast' and leader of
the 'bully pack' today -- at least the government of the U.S. is -- many
of the people here are turning away from mainstream society and looking
for value other than in money as bottom dollar value.  And as well
beginning to realize how much suffering there is in the rest of the world
that has been U.S. instigated.  We are beginning to look at what is
happening in places like Turkey and realize that the U.S. government
strongly influences the actions of the IMFand other institutions. 

Somehow the people there in Turkey and other places like it, must begin
to take back their power -- I am not familiar with Turkey so I do not
know how to advise you to do this.  I apologize for being so ignorant in
this respect -- in Mexico I am more familiar with the situation and have
contacts.   There may be others who have ideas and will join in here --
but uniting and creating the synergy is important.

Richard Richardson in Poland is the closest to you and who will
understand the situation in Turkey the best.  I have included him as a
Cc: 

In love and peace -

marguerite         

           
  


On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:13:34 EST SOncu@aol.com writes:
 In a message dated 00-12-18 17:26:06 EST, ecopilgrim@juno.com writes:
 
 The new science of quantum mechanics, the discovery of the Quantum 
 Force,   the Quantum Field, and holodynes, and the use of
'phase-spacing'
  (stepping back to look at the 'holodynamics of the situation')  and the
  Mind Model, help solve individual, group, and systemic problems.  
These  tools help ideintify the Implicate Order of growth for all
society.  They
 make it possible to focus and potentialize the world as a whole. 
 They  are part of the new order which is emerging from world chaos to 
bring us  to oneness. . . . Oneness can only occur when everything is 
aligned. . .
 
 Dear Marguerite,
 
 Having studied continuum as opposed to quantum mechanics, I read 
 your post 
 with interest. It contained new information that I was not aware of.
 
 I am from Turkiye and my country has very serious practical 
 difficulties:
 
 1) We are going through a serious IMF induced financial crisis that 
 may 
 spread to the rest of the so-called "emerging-markets"  and, when 
 combined 
 with the financial/economic difficulties in Argentina, South Korea, 
 Indonesia, Taiwan and the like, may push the entire global economy 
 into a 
 deep recession (of course, unless the US tumbles first).
 
 2) The minimum wage was announced recently and, after tax, it 
 amounts to 
 102,000,000 TL per month which is approximatly $130 to $140 in US 
 dollars. 
 Still better than the $1 per day or less in poorer countries but the 
 cost of 
 living in Istanbul, for example, is at such a level that unless 
 these people 
 work a few jobs or become thieves and steal whatever they can steal, 
 they 
 have no hope to survive on such an income.
 
 3) On the other hand, the unemployment is very high, public 
 hospitals and 
 schools are in miserable condition whereas ability to go to private 
 hospitals 
 and shools (at all levels from kindergarten to university) would 
 require way 
 into six figure US salaries (per year), and for the condition of the 
 rest of 
 public services a little use of imagination should give you enough 
 idea. By 
 the way, last week the daughter of a hotel chain owner got married 
 to the son 
 of a private parking garage chain owner and they had their wedding 
 ceremony 
 in a restaurant in Paris. The father of the groom said that he 
 prefered Paris 
 because it was cheaper there and he only paid about $100, 000. The 
 guests 
 went to Paris in a private plane but I couldn't catch whose plane it 
 was. 
   
 4) We recently had in six cities riot police uprisings, after an 
 armed attack 
 by some provocateurs on a police vehicle that killed two and injured 
 twelve 
 police officers. Most of the members of the police force happen to 
 have been 
 recruited from the extreme-right (fascist nationalists and islamic 
 fundamentalists, and I wonder why?) and they are cooperating with 
 the 
 right-wing militia to attack on the human rights activists, labor 
 unionists, 
 university students, intellectuals and the like (again, I wonder 
 why?). As 
 recently as yesterday, they arrested the president of the Human 
 Rights 
 Society together with a few other members and other sixty some 
 demonstrators 
 againts cell-type prisons and these lovely police force members are 
 known to 
 have chanted the slogan "To Hell with Human Rights!" in the past.
 
 5) To the already existing three Messiahs we have, this week we 
 added a new 
 prophet and the number of Messiahs and prophets per squaremeter in 
 Turkiye is 
 growing by the day. As you know: Jesus Saves You!
 
 I could contuinue with more items but from the ones I listed in the 
 above you 
 probably have gathered already that my country is not doing well and 
 my 
 personal sanity is at serious risk. At the risk of ruining my 
 nonexisting 
 reputation, may I ask you how I may make use of this Holodynamics to 
 maintain 
 my sanity?
 
 Respectfully,
 Sabri 

Marguerite Hampton
Executive Director - Turtle Island Institute
EcoPilgrim@juno.com
http://tii-kokopellispirit.org


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