Re: David Bohm and Dialogue - Meeting Face-to-face - Holodynamics & What

Dear Marguerite,
    I don't wish to make myself an enemy of you, as I appreciate and agree 
with your intentions, instead I am simply questioning the "wisdom" of your 
post.

In a message dated 12/18/00 3:30:26 PM, ecopilgrim@juno.com writes:

<< Sanity begins on the holodynamic plane.  Each national leader must be
surrounded by people who know how to address the individual mania in an
objective, effective manner.  This is the only way to keep it from
becoming a collective mania. . . it takes people who understand the
principles of *holodynamics.*  
 >>
 
For instance, this paragraph to me sounds totally unrealistic. But not only 
that, it seems clear to me, though I could be wrong, that there will be no 
real solutions as long as sovereign entities such as nations, gov'ts, etc are 
allowed to exist and capitalism dominates, no matter how great "holodynamics" 
are any such self-realization system is.

This, not to get into a long explanation, leads to a future vision of 
decentralized, relatively self-sustainable, autonomous but not sovereign, 
small, mutually co-operative communities on a global scale, which we may or 
may not agree upon. Pretty much the opposite of what exists today.

To attain this goal, I would not suggest any kind of violent revolution, as 
historically all revolutions are inevitably betrayed, besides the fact that 
it would be violent and hugely daunting, but rather by beginning to build 
these kind of communities (i.e. self-sustainable, intentional communities, 
et.al) to be models for others both in urban and rural environments, first 
and third world.

I would be curious to your response to these remarks. I prefer not to share 
my background as I would hope that you could respond clearly to my remarks 
rather than whether I have any credibility or not.

Kind Regards,
Mofwoofoo Woofuaza