At 08:02 10.8.03 -0400, you wrote:
what comes sooner to mind is not blaming germans for the crimes of nazism -
that was rejected rightly enough at nuremberg
> Blaming Jews for the actions of Zionists,
> is like blaming Americans for the actions
> of the Bush administration :-)
to help weaken the iron link between zionism and judaism, i emphasize
unmasking the importance of christian zionism, to escape this circular
another interesting angle is how the holocaust radicalized jewry in a
totally new direction.
(at its most intriguing if you don't reject as conspiracy theory out of
hand the evidence of sutton, tarpley, lufton and others, that the holocaust
may have been planned by a "world system" with offices on wall street - but
interesting enough in any case)
in the 1920's pavlov hit on the phenomenon of conditioning by trauma, in
which the personality, in order to survive, would in desperation reverse
its previous characteristics. (not that this was unknown before - according
to wm sargant, the oracles of ancient times used trauma methods, and the
french revolution bears all the marks too. dare i mention 911...?)
one wag has remarked that before the war, jews were merchants, and germans
were militarists. since then, it's the other way about.
the world system i refer to is the perennial american crypto-fascist
oligarchy. the jewish people have historically been the greatest source of
liberal and radical thinking in the bigotry-ridden west. they were always
getting in the way of a fascist world order.
before hitler, i understand only 3% of the jews were zionists. it did not
appeal to them. without demonization, zionism is simply and categorically
an offshoot of the fascist family of nationalist ideologies.
so here is how the scheme worked - deliberate or not, i leave it to your
the war and the holocaust traumatized the jews, and the entire continent of
europe as well. the result is the europeans would never again be warriors,
and the jews were desperate enough to go to palestine, do the work of
empire there, and play along with oligarchy in the diaspora, too. there
will still be liberal jews, but in a pinch, you have the homeland issue to
make them toe the fascist line.
that's the criticism of "israel" - it's part of a world-scale scam of
traumatization and degradation of other peoples by the angloids, as we are
observing in sci-fi splendor in iraq today.
Although I don't believe 'blame' is a useful form of social analysis, to
the extent that I'd be willing to use that language, I'd blame lots of
Americans for the actions of the Bush administration (as well as a number
of non-Americans--Blair, Berlusconi, Sharon, etc). About half the
electorate voted for the guy. Many happilly join in with the bullying
'you're with us or against us' rhetoric. There are some small elites who
do a great deal to shape policy, but they can't do anything without
substantial popular support.
Zionism cannot be easily seperated from contemporary Judaism.