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PFPC and cogdem
by E. Prugovecki
11 May 2003 20:48 UTC
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Boris Stremlin has raised in his May 10, 2003 post "PFPC" a number of questions re PFPC, and Warren Wagar answered them all in detail, prefacing his post, however, with the remark that these questions "should also be put to Dr. Rojas and Dr. Prugovecki."

Let me say that I agree with many of the answers supplied by Dr. Wagar, but that we have "agreed to disagree" some time ago with regard to some of the theories and the practices to which we subscribe. This, of course, does not prevent us from agreeing on many fundamental issues. That is a necessary part of the process which I call "coordinated group decision making," or "cogdem" for short. (Incidentally, Dr. Wagar and I have never met, and our "electronic acquaintance" is entirely due to e-mail and the Internet, which, I am by now certain, will one day be totally integrated in medium of multi-personal communication along the lines of the "Coordinating Computer Complex" which I envisage in my futuristic writings.)

I have explained in the article "Coordinated Group Decision Making: A Sociological Model for Future Democracies," published about one year ago on the Utopias Forum website

http://www.wfs.org/prugovecki.htm ,

and now available also on my own website

http://individual.utoronto.ca/prugovecki/ ,

how I have arrived at the idea of cogdem, spurred by political developments in the late 1960s. I shall, therefore, not take valuable WSN space by repeating that story (which, I think, was submitted last year to WSN by Dr. Wagar), except to say that I envisaged in the early 1970s how some future developments in computer technology might enable new forms of participatory democracy. That was, however, before the Internet was even conceived, so that when I was ultimately confronted with its technological reality, I had to ask myself how a cogdem-based might be eventually achieved without bloodshed.

I have provided some answers in the context of two futuristic novels, which I have recently published (cf. my website above), but they invoke catastrophic events, which the present world situation does not render at all unlikely, but which are certainly most undesirable for humankind.

In one of his answers to Boris Stremlin's questions, Dr. Wagar mentions "a planet-wide revolution, programmed and timed to seize the initiative in the wake of catastrophe, [which] can create a radically different United Nations with the resolve, the teeth, and the support of the masses to disarm national armed forces and redeem the wealth of the world from its corporate malefactors."

My answer to the same type of question is much less spectacular, and it was presented in the article ON SOME FUTURE SOCIAL EFFECTS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS REVOLUTION, published last year on the website

http://www.wfs.org/prugovecki2.htm

and now available also on the PFPC website

http://www.rrojasdatabank.org/pfpc0000.htm .

It is based on the observation that the Industrial Revolution had proceeded without significant bloodshed (but, of course, caused a tremendous amount of suffering among those exploited by the emerging capitalist class), and proceeded under its own impetus due to the availability of new technologies. Hence, I reasoned that the invention of totally new type of communications media, which can't be totally controlled by those in power, and which furthermore enable two-way mass communication (as opposed to the inventions of print, radio and TV), might eventually lead, through a long and gradual process, to the emergence of mentally liberated masses of people, who would not allow themselves to be manipulated the way, say, the American public has been manipulated by the American ruling classes since the very inception of USA.

Of course, this hypothesis is very un-Marxist, and contrary to the ideology of revolutionary class struggle. But it is based on my observations in five countries in which I have lived for long periods of time, and several more, which I have visited for protracted periods of time. These observations indicated to me that ideological indoctrination can play as big a role in shaping the behavior of the "masses" as the economic factors to which Marxism pays overwhelming attention. (That's one of the reasons why I wrote my WSN posts about supremacist ideologies based on fallacious and racist or chauvinistic "superiority" arguments.)

For example, I now live in Mexico, and I find that Catholic indoctrination, combined with beliefs that have survived the encounter of the Aztecs with the Spaniards, have influenced enormously social relationships in this country. Before that I lived in the United States and Canada, where I found that the almost entire population, including most of the "intellectuals," have been totally "brainstuffed" since the moment of birth with a system of beliefs which do not reflect social and economic realities. (I invented the term "brainstuffing" as a counterpart to "brainwashing," since its victims have never acquired the kind of objective and reliable information that could be "washed out" of their brains, and are even blissfully unaware that they've been brainstuffed.) In fact, in the two "communist" countries in which I have lived for many years (namely pre-Ceausescu's Romania and Tito's Yugoslavia) I found the people least brainstuffed, since they have been exposed since childhood to various ideologies ("communist," "capitalist," Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Muslim, etc.), so that as they grew up many of them did not totally fall under spell of any single ideology.

Of course, that did not prevent Milosevic to take over power and drive Serbia into a series of almost genocidal wars, of which many Serbs disapproved. But to me that only demonstrated the fact that the Serbian people are still far from the higher level of "consciousness" necessary for cogdem or some other advanced form of participatory democracy. However, compare that with the way Bush came to power in US through a fraudulent election, and then proceeded to invade Iraq, while the great majority of the Americans bought the propaganda handed down to them by CNN and other big-time media controlled by the US ruling classes.

Hence, I look upon PFPN as one of the many parallel efforts to resist Bush and the neo-con tide, which now threatens in a very real way the entire world. Those of you who have been following my recent posts might have noticed that I first brought PNAC and its goals to the attention of WSN in my April 1, 2003 post with the subject "A SECRET blueprint for US global domination."

It turned out that the blueprint was not totally secret, and that a few WSN subscribers already knew about it. Nevertheless billions of people across the globe still do not know about it, including, I believe, the huge majority of the American people. However, at the beginning of the last month I myself knew very little about PNAC and its very explicitly stated plans for US global domination. But then Dr. Robinson Rojas reacted positively and constructively to my April 29, 2003 post on the same subject, and in a very modest illustration of how cogdem works in practice, we now have online a PFPC website. (Incidentally, as in the case of Dr. Wagar, my "electronic acquaintance" with Dr. Rojas is again due exclusively to e-mail and the Internet.)

I only wish that more WSN subscribers had participated in this little enterprise. Of course, cogdem requires intellectually alert people who not only like to discuss issues, but are also willing to act after a consensus is achieved by democratic means. Although this does not seem to be the case with WSN subscribers, I have seen it happen in some other recent instances, and I give an actual example in my aforementioned article ON SOME FUTURE SOCIAL EFFECTS OF THE COMMUNICATIONS REVOLUTION.

In fact, I believe that the world-wide resistance to the war on Iraq might be largely due to the existence of the Internet and e-mail. Anybody with access to Internet can nowadays use Google or other search engines to trace dozens of websites which oppose the present US imperialist policies.

Perhaps one day the people who have founded these websites will start actively interacting and cooperating. That would be the next small step on the very long path leading towards a cogdem-based society.

Eduard Prugovecki


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