Re: Mass arrests of Muslims in California

Greetings,

Although I think it is really sad to see such trends nevertheless i wish to add that I think if one expected otherwisse then it would be very naive. No?

Kind

Kafkazli Seyed

seyedjavad

From: Michael Pugliese

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To: PROGRESSIVE SOCIOLOGISTS NETWORK

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Subject: Re: Mass arrests of Muslims in California

Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 14:04:44 -0800

www.sfgate.com INS arrests hundreds from Mideast, Africa They were held when they showed up, as requested, for a registration program Megan Garvey, Martha Groves, Henry Weinstein, Los Angeles Times

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi- bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/12/19/MN33452.DTL

Los Angeles-- Hundreds of men and boys from Middle Eastern and African countries were arrested by federal immigration officials in Southern California this week when they complied with orders to appear at INS offices for a special registration program. The arrests drew thousands of people to demonstrate here Wednesday. Immigration and Naturalization Service spokesmen refused Wednesday to say how many people the agency had detained, what the specific charges were or how many were still being held. But officials speaking anonymously said they would not dispute estimates by lawyers for detainees that the number across Southern California was 500 to 700. In Los Angeles, as many as one-fourth of those who showed up to register were jailed, lawyers said. The number of people arrested in this region appears to have been considerably larger than elsewhere in the United States, perhaps because of the size of Southern California's Iranian population. Monday's registration deadline applied to males 16 and older from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan and Syria. Men from 13 other nations, mostly from the Middle East and North Africa, are required to register next month. Many of those arrested, according to their lawyers, had already applied for green cards and, in some instances, had interviews scheduled in the near future. Although they had overstayed their visas, attorneys argue, their clients had already taken steps to remedy the situation and were following the regulations closely. "These are the people who've voluntarily gone" to the INS, said Mike Manesh of the Iranian American Lawyers Association. "If they had anything to do with terrorism, they wouldn't have gone." Immigration officials acknowledged Wednesday that many of those taken into custody this week have status-adjustment applications pending that have not yet been acted on. "The vast majority of people who are coming forward to register are currently in legal immigration status," said local INS spokeswoman Virginia Kice. "The people we have taken into custody are people whose non-immigrant visas have expired." The large number of Iranians among the detainees has angered many in the area's Iranian immigrant communities, who organized a demonstration Wednesday at the federal building in Westwood. At the rally, which police officials estimated drew about 3,000 protesters at its peak, some carried signs bearing such sentiments as "What Next? Concentration Camps?" and "Detain Terrorists not Innocent Immigrants." The arrests have generated widespread publicity, mostly unfavorable, in the Middle East, said Khaled Dawoud, a correspondent for al Ahram, one of Egypt's largest dailies. He questioned State Department official Charlotte Beers about the detentions Wednesday after a presentation she made at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. Egyptians are not included in the registration requirement. Beers, undersecretary of state for public diplomacy and public affairs, was presenting examples of a U.S. outreach campaign for the Middle East, which includes images of Muslims leading happy lives here. Dawoud asked how that image squared with the "humiliating" arrests in recent days. "I don't think there is any question that the change in visa policy is going to be seen by some as difficult and, indeed -- what was the word you used? -- humiliating," Beers said. But, she added, President Bush has said repeatedly he considers "his No. 1 job to be the protection of the American people." Relatives and lawyers of those arrested locally challenge that rationale for the latest round of detentions. One attorney, who said he saw a 16-year- old boy pulled from the arms of his crying mother, called it madness to believe the registration requirements would catch terrorists. "His mother is 6 1/2 months pregnant. They told the mother he is never going to come home -- she is losing her mind," said attorney Soheila Jonoubi, who spent Wednesday amid the chaos of the downtown INS office attempting to determine the status of her clients. Jonoubi said the mother has permanent residence status and that her husband, the boy's stepfather, is a U.S. citizen. The teenager came to the country in July on a student visa and was on track to gain permanent residence, the lawyer said. Many also objected to the treatment of those who showed up for the registration process. INS ads on local Persian radio stations and in other ethnic media led many to expect a routine procedure. Instead, the registration quickly became the subject of fear as word spread that large numbers of men were being arrested. ©2002 San Francisco Chronicle| Feedback

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On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 12:56:05 -0600, Alan Spector wrote:

>There was a time when many Marxists were accused of "paranoia" or of

>being "inflexible" in their belief that the civil liberties granted

>by capitalism were not sacred and therefore should not be respected.

>. Marxists, and working class people in general, were told to vote

>for one or another of the capitalists and to obey the fundamental

>rules of capitalism -- even though the capitalist class, itself,

>would easily abandon those rules when it chose to. So now we have

>massive, secret round-ups and imprisonment first of Muslims, then???

> As the old saying goes: "First they came for the Jews, but

>I......"

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>The entire article can be found at:

>http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20021219/wl_nm/attack_immigration_dc_4

>World - Reuters

>Hundreds of Muslim Immigrants Rounded Up in Calif.

>Thu Dec 9,12:05 AM ET

>By Jill Serjeant

>LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Hundreds of Iranian and other Middle East

>citizens were in southern California jails on Wednesday after coming

>forward to comply with a new rule to register with immigration

>authorities only to wind up handcuffed and behind bars.

>Shocked and frustrated Islamic and immigrant groups estimate that

>more than 500 people have been arrested in Los Angeles, neighboring

>Orange County and San Diego in the past three days under a new

>nationwide anti- terrorism program. Some unconfirmed reports put the

>figure as high as 1,000.

>The arrests sparked a demonstration by hundreds of Iranians outside

>a Los Angeles immigration office. The protesters carried banners

>saying "What's next? Concentration camps?" and "What happened to

>liberty and justice?."

>A spokesman for the Immigration and Naturalization Service said no

>numbers of people arrested would be made public. A Justice

>Department (news - web sites) spokesman could not be reached for

>comment.

Michael Pugliese