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RE: More reactionary acts by michael pugliese 18 January 2001 09:34 UTC |
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========================================= Note: The sender of this email has requested that you verify receipt of this email. Please visit the web page below (click on the link) to verify receipt. http://cgi.webbox.com/wbwc/webbox.asp?act=vr&ms=49037306&t=bkwujzwbyj ========================================= I confess, I supplement my $7.00 hr. job(plus health benefits, it's shitty wage but the bennies pull it up to anequivalent os say 10 an hr. a princely sum...) in the 2nd most expensive houising market in the USA with pay-offs from NATO, MI5 and the CIA! Yup, Mine you can tell Lou and Jared that Michael the fink has revealed his true colors! Your style of invective is so fresh, why it's right out of a style guide written by a CPUSA hack like V.J. Jerome circa '37 manufacturing lies about "Trotskyite-Fascists". Your line I don't quite comprehend though. Are you saying that NATO cooks up these conspiracy theories to rebut their opponents in their psywar dept., and then they transmit their directives to people like me (where is that VENONA codebook?) so I can polemicize against Jared et.al.? Whatever linkages I've been able to find, some by searching diligantly, some found by accident, between Jared and Chossudovsky and actors of a far right cast (the paleo-cons at Chronicles, the Truth In Media racist Buchananite, Serbo-Canadian right-wing supporters of Karazdic and Milosevic) are, motivated by a desire to show the moral and strategic deadend that their united front with the Right (Unite with all forces no matter their underlying reactionary nature if they have a tactical utility in a grand coalition against the New World Order. Jared's writing as others on the Leninist-International listserv like Owen Jones and Johannes Schneider [http://www.geocities.com/leninist_international/kosovo.htm ]) (both operating out of the Trotskyist tradition) have shown has shown a shocking level of ethnic scapegoating (calling Kosovars, "rubbish") and slavish identification with a corrupt, bureaucratically deformed ruling caste that split apart Yugoslavia, engaged in wars in Bosnia and Kosovo that killed tens of thousands, and grabbed as much of the formerly state owned assets as they could for their own benefit. (Another favorite in my memory bank of outrageousness from Jared, his screed on Susan Sontag in tenc denying the rape of Bosnian woman or the killing of thsands in Srbenica in '92)Now, if you want to distort what is essentially a neo-Trot argument into NATO apologetics, I guess I can't stop you. No wonder why Doug Henwood calls you an idiot. Geting thrown off of Proyect's list last year is now a badge of pride on my part. Geting thrown off the Socialist Register list I'm not proud of my childish antic that got me throwen of. But the Latter was a post composed entirely of Proyect's own scatological profanity and invective. If whoever "runs" this list wants to throw me off for questioning the progressive cred of J. Israel et.al. O.K. whatever. Something makes me think that the periodic needling I throw in the direction of the Milosevic fan club gets a bit under their skin, otherwise why would Israel, Proyect, Mine and Stainsby (hmm, sounds like a law firm for Stalinist hacks) react so vociferously to the polemics of another leftist, albeit one from quite a different trend and tradition than their one which first and last principle seems to be, "The Enemy of my enemy is my friend." Cliche yes, I know, but sometimes cliches are true. And one of these days, you all might have your Kronstadt or Stalin-Hitler Pact shock at how the forces you identify with were not as you thought. But, I kinda sdoubt it. Michael Pugliese >--- Original Message --- >From: Mine Aysen Doyran <mine25.1@netzero.net> >To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu >Date: 1/18/01 6:12:34 AM > >>I needed more sectariana to add to my hard drive! Paul, I don't >discount >your committment. What's wrong about joining some less far loony sect? >Committees of Correspondence? Solidarity? Whatever... > >>Little did I think all those yrs. ago I was an undergrad reading >Wallerstein's MWS vols. that I'd find a list of suppossed >Wallersteinians, >where one person writes extensively for a crackpot New Age conspiracy >theory >rag and someone else was in PLP. The internut indeed... > > Michael Pugliese, I > >What is this reactionary spam about progressives? I am inviting the >moderators to take an action concerning Michel Pugliese. Not only he >publicly exposes people who are progressives just because he finds them >leftist for his taste (including Jared Isreal and other leftist >activists writing for _Emperor's Clothes_ like Michael C.), but also >makes personal comments about people he has no idea about, such as >world system theorists (btw, he does not even know Jared, except for >hearsay and supposition). For the record, Mr. Pugliese has been removed >from marxism mailing list and socialist register discussion group for >misbehaving and baiting progressives with conspiracy theories of NATO >sort. > >How long will the moderatos allow the kind of comments exposed above? > >-- >Mine Aysen Doyran >Ph.D Student >Department of Political Science >SUNY at Albany >Nelson A. Rockefeller College >135 Western Ave.; Milne 102 >Albany, NY 12222 > > > >Shop online without a credit card >http://www.rocketcash.com >RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary > ---------------- Sent from a WebBox - http://www.webbox.com FREE Web based Email, Files, Bookmarks, Calendar, People and Great Ways to Share them with Others!
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