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RE: More reactionary acts
by michael pugliese
18 January 2001 09:34 UTC
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I confess, I supplement my $7.00 hr. job(plus health benefits,
it's shitty wage but the bennies pull it up to anequivalent os
say 10 an hr. a princely sum...) in the 2nd most expensive houising
market in the USA with pay-offs from NATO, MI5 and the CIA! Yup,
Mine you can tell Lou and Jared that Michael the fink has revealed
his true colors!
   Your style of invective is so fresh, why it's right out of
a style guide written by a CPUSA hack like V.J. Jerome circa
'37 manufacturing lies about "Trotskyite-Fascists".
  Your line I don't quite comprehend though. Are you saying that
NATO cooks up these conspiracy theories to rebut their 
opponents in their psywar dept., and then they transmit their
directives to people like me (where is that VENONA codebook?)
so I can polemicize against Jared et.al.? 
   Whatever linkages I've been able to find, some by searching
diligantly, some found by accident, between Jared and Chossudovsky
and actors of a far right cast (the paleo-cons at Chronicles,
the Truth In Media racist Buchananite, Serbo-Canadian right-wing
supporters of Karazdic and Milosevic) are, motivated by a desire
to show the moral and strategic deadend that their united front
with the Right (Unite with all forces no matter their underlying
reactionary nature if they have a tactical utility in a grand
coalition against the New World Order. Jared's writing as others
on the Leninist-International listserv like Owen Jones and Johannes
Schneider [http://www.geocities.com/leninist_international/kosovo.htm
])
(both operating out of the Trotskyist tradition) have shown has
shown a shocking level of ethnic scapegoating
(calling Kosovars, "rubbish") and slavish identification with
a corrupt, bureaucratically deformed ruling caste that 
split apart Yugoslavia, engaged in wars in Bosnia and Kosovo
that killed tens of thousands, and grabbed as much of the formerly
state owned assets as they could for their own benefit. (Another
favorite in my memory bank of outrageousness from Jared, his
screed on Susan Sontag in tenc denying the rape of Bosnian woman
or the killing of thsands in Srbenica in '92)Now, if you want
to distort what is essentially a neo-Trot argument into NATO
apologetics, I guess I can't stop you. No wonder why Doug Henwood
calls you an idiot.
  Geting thrown off of Proyect's list last year is now a badge
of pride on my part. Geting thrown off the Socialist Register
list I'm not proud of my childish antic that got me throwen of.
But the Latter was a post composed entirely
of Proyect's own scatological profanity and invective.
   If whoever "runs" this list wants to throw me off for questioning
the progressive cred of J. Israel et.al. O.K.
whatever. Something makes me think that the periodic needling
I throw in the direction of the Milosevic fan club
gets a bit under their skin, otherwise why would Israel, Proyect,
Mine and Stainsby (hmm, sounds like a law firm for Stalinist
hacks) react so vociferously to the polemics of 
another leftist, albeit one from quite a different trend and
tradition than their one which first and last principle seems
to be, "The Enemy of my enemy is my friend." Cliche yes, I know,
but sometimes cliches are true. And one of these days, you all
might have your Kronstadt or Stalin-Hitler Pact shock at how
the forces you identify with were not as you thought. But, I
kinda sdoubt it.
                           Michael Pugliese

>--- Original Message ---
>From: Mine Aysen Doyran <mine25.1@netzero.net>
>To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu
>Date: 1/18/01 6:12:34 AM
>

>>I needed more sectariana to add to my hard drive! Paul, I don't
>discount
>your committment. What's wrong about joining some less far loony
sect?
>Committees of Correspondence? Solidarity? Whatever...
>
>>Little did I think all those yrs. ago I was an undergrad reading
>Wallerstein's MWS vols. that I'd find a list of suppossed
>Wallersteinians,
>where one person writes extensively for a crackpot New Age conspiracy
>theory
>rag and someone else was in PLP. The internut indeed...
>
>                                                    Michael
Pugliese, I
>
>What is this reactionary spam about progressives? I am inviting
the
>moderators to take an action concerning Michel Pugliese. Not
only he
>publicly exposes people who are progressives just because he
finds them
>leftist for his taste (including Jared Isreal and other leftist
>activists writing for  _Emperor's Clothes_  like Michael C.),
 but also
>makes personal comments about people he has no idea about, such
as
>world system theorists (btw, he does not even know Jared,  except
for
>hearsay and supposition). For the record, Mr. Pugliese has been
removed
>from marxism mailing list and socialist register discussion
group for
>misbehaving and baiting progressives with conspiracy theories
of  NATO
>sort.
>
>How long will the moderatos allow the kind of comments exposed
above?
>
>--
>Mine Aysen Doyran
>Ph.D Student
>Department of Political Science
>SUNY at Albany
>Nelson A. Rockefeller College
>135 Western Ave.; Milne 102
>Albany, NY 12222
>
>
>
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