David Bohm and Dialogue - Meeting Face-to-face - Holodynamics & What Nex

Hi Everyone - 

Please forgive the cross-posting and the length of this post, but I do
believe that this may be of interest to several groups.  I have just
joined the 'wsn-csf' list and believe this is appropriate post; however,
if it is not, then please pardon the intrusion, delete the post and let
me know.  I have not previously followed the discussion on 'wsn', but
have exchanged messages with a few on the 'wsn' list.  This is an attempt
to bring several different subjects (and discussions) together into a
dynamic whole that we may collectively understand -- at least those of us
who are interested.  And from that point to come together collectively
and face-to-face. 

First, on   

DAVID BOHM 

Some have noted not ever hearing of David Bohm or F. David Peat and since
this is pertinent to this post, I am including information here. 
(Information obtained through the website:   The Co-Intelligence
Institute  *  Eugene, OR  http://www.co-intelligence.org) as noted by
Richard Moore in ENVISIONING A SUCCESSFUL MOVEMENT) 

David Bohm (1917-1992) was a preeminent physicist and philosopher of
science. A student of Robert Oppenheimer and Einstein, and contemporary
of Nils Bohr, Bohm was a member of the Royal Academy, the originator of
the causal interpretation of quantum theory, and the author of a famous
text on quantum mechanics (Quantum Theory, Prentice-Hall, 1951) as well
as numerous other books and articles. The classic Quantum Theory was a
clarification of Bohr’s Atomic Theory and the Description of Nature.
David Bohm’s text generated several topics in the field which remain the
subject of current research.  http://www.bohmdialogue.org/bio.html,
http://www.bohmdialogue.org/about.html and
http://www.bohmdialogue.org/about.html

MEETING AT ARCOSANTI 

Richard Moore, has written of a need for us (those, involved here and in
other groups,  who desire to do so) to meet face-to-face.  Early on some
of us in the FixGov group had expressed an interest in doing just  that. 
The place we chose to meet is at ACROSANTI in Arizona, USA.  Designed as
a 'City of the Future' it does seem to be a most appropriate place for
such a meeting -- we had not set a firm date.  

Randall Hunt, a former participant in the Alternate Culture Group, an
architect and former resident of ARCOSANTI, has indicated he would set up
the meeting for us when we were ready and act as our 'guide' into one
aspect of the 'future world.' For details on ARCOSANTI, please see: 
http://www.arcosanti.org/  

HOLODYNAMICS

I mentioned previously having studied under the guidance of Dr. V. Vernon
Woolf who is the founder of the HOLODYNAMICS movement and the author of
HOLODYNAMICS: How to Develop and Manage Your Personal Power.'  Dr. Woolf
holds degrees in physics, chemistry and psychiatry and his philosopy is
based in several different fields as he, himself reveals in his book from
which I quote extensively below.  Dr. Woolf was very interested in the
work of David Bohm and the of F. David Peat, who wrote the forward to his
book.      

Vern writes in his book, < 'My own experience has taught me that
intuition was by far the greatest gift that I could have as a
therapist--that all the rational training I had gone through was of very
little use in healing and helping on the street.  Somehow it was
intuition that really counted.  But how could intuition be explained from
a rational perspective?  Sometimes I could sense intuitively what the
problem was, even though I had little information about it.  That deep
sense began to fascinate me.  I taught myself how to apply my sensory
pereption processes to the intituive part of my mind.  This opened doors
that had never been opened before.  Learning to use my senses on my
intuitive mind awas one of the greatest experiences of my life, and I
found myself in possession of the greatest computer I could ever imagine.
 It was my intuitive mind--my right brain--that took in the totality of
things from a 'wave' perspective--that dealt with things as part of one,
dynamic whole.

From quantum physics, I knew there was an underlying order throughout the
universe and an all-pervading force, which manifested itself in the dual
nature of reality:  as both 'particle' and 'wave'.  

From holographics, I learned how the mind stored memories; from the
developmentalists, how the mind developed according to definite stages;
from the neurologists,  how the mind has causal potency."  

From fluid dynamics, I learned how 'shape' within a 'stream' influenced
the whole stream; from topology, how shape could be changed without
changing function; from chaos theory, how every chaotic system was part
of a greater order and had within it its own hidden order.  

Then everything came together.

I looked at the mind form a quantuum perspective and began to understand
how the mind had a direct impact upon reality.

I looked for 'shapes' within the 'streams' of thought and so discovered
'holodynes,' and then the 'Full Potential Self' -- the 'I'. . . . 
(personally, I now refer to this as 'developing the 'Response-able 'I' or
the 'I' that is able to 'act upon situations rather than 'reacting' to
them - marguerite) 

Dr. Woolf writes next of how he developed a 'Mind Model' to show how
everything worked -- he saw that 'primative holodynes' lay within our
minds and he developed a process through which to track these 'holodynes'
and 'mature' them -- he thus developed the 'principles of holodynamics'
as a way to enable people in developing their 'Full Potential Self," --
that is, getting rid of our 'immature thought patterns' and replacing
them with 'mature' ones.  

Vern, saw how this applied to entire societies  (take for example those
in Yugoslavia) who pass 'holodynes' down  continually for generation
after generation (in a primative manner) and 'react' through 'ethnic
cleansing' and 'war' to their perceived situation rather than 'acting'
upon it in a mature way which would perhaps call for 'dialogue' and
peaceful resolution among other choices.  This applies to many 
other world situations and their 'holodynamics.'  But we can change
these through 'shifting the energy' or 'values' of a particular society. 


Dr. Woolf also views the universe as 'holodynamic:  'All matter,
energy, and intelligence--past, present, and future--are part of one,
dynamic whole.  As once you realize that you are part of everything and
everyone, the dynamics between you and every other person change.  You
realize that how you treat another is a reflection of how you treat
yourself.  All things become extensions of your own intelligence.  You
realize we are all part of the quantum field of reality in which each
person functions as a major determinant of that reality. . . .We are all
like pictures on a movie screen--complex projections of what our Full
potential Selves want us to be on this plane.

Suppose, however, that on the other side of the box there were another
hole.  Your Full Potential Self could also be projecting itself through
that hole into another world, a world *parallel* to this one. . . . To
your Full Potential Self, your 'I', all dimensions of the mind are
holodynamic.  Your 'I' has the power to access and make available to you
information regarding *any* dimension anywhere, anytime--past, present,
or future.  

As your conscious mind gains in sensitivity and awareness, you are able
to connect with all aspects of the holodynamic universe, whether within
parallel worlds or within the deeper orders within orders of your mind. 
Your personal power grows far beyond anything you ever believed possible.
 You unfold your 'I' in the now and experience the past and future at the
same time--*holodynamically.*

Change occurs holodynamically; to change any holodyne is to change the
physics of the mind; to change the physics of the mind is to change the
physics of the universe--past, present, and future.  The holodynamics of
the mind can be applied systematically to solve every problem of human
experience. . . . 

Physical development is only the first stage of social evolution.  The
second stage has to do with the emerging of the planet as a holodynamic.
. . . We have great potential, but as a world society, we are still in
our youth.  We are at the door of having unlimited power and energy, but
we have no way of controlling who gets the power.  It's like having a
loaded gun in the playpen.  (I am reminded here of David Korten writing: 
'We are headed in a direction where no sane person wants to go.') 

Sanity begins on the holodynamic plane.  Each national leader must be
surrounded by people who know how to address the individual mania in an
objective, effective manner.  This is the only way to keep it from
becoming a collective mania. . . it takes people who understand the
principles of *holodynamics.*  

The new science of quantum mechanics, the discovery of the Quantum Force,
the Quantum Field, and holodynes, and the use of 'phase-spacing'
(stepping back to look at the 'holodynamics of the situation') and the
Mind Model, help solve individual, group, and systemic problems.  These
tools help ideintify the Implicate Order of growth for all society.  They
 make it possible to focus and potentialize the world as a whole.  They
are part of the new order which is emerging from world chaos to bring us
to oneness. . . . Oneness can only occur when everything is aligned. . .
.
when every person, every group, and every country is focused upon our
fullest, collective potential.  We must align ourselves so that everybody
wins. >  

I offer this as a means of 'telling my personal story' or 'where I am
coming from' as I participate in these lists -- to bring us into
alignment
for world peace along with social, environmental and economic justice
internationally.       

Richard Richardson is continually bringing us to the spiritual guidance
of P. K. Sarkar and the 'Sativa,' with PROUT as being 'the way' -- (which
I do not mean to judge) but I would like to suggest that the power of the
'Sativa' lies within all of us through potentializing the 'I' within
ourselves to it's fullest 'being.'  

This is the wisdom that has been hidden from us for generations -- that
we all have the potential to be 'Sativas' that is.   But those who have
sought to 'rule' us and make us do their bidding, (the exploiters among
us) have chosen -- through so-called religious guidance -- to make us
feel that only a 'chosen' few have the ability to access the wisdom of
all of the universe -- and, in doing so have kept us like children in our
collective mental and emotional development.  

When I write of such things as this 'being time for the human race to go
to another level of consciousness,'  it is to this 'fulfillment of our
potential' that I speak.  As Fr. Thomas Berry writes:  

'<How I think affects the whole:  the earth thinks as you think.  The
Earth thinks as all of us think.  And the Earth is in a process of coming
out of its adolescent fixation with itself and its powers, into a whole
new level of maturity.  And to the degree that you and I make that jump,
the Earth makes that jump.  It's as simple and profound as that.>   

Time is of the essence here, and it is time for us collectively to go to
a whole new level of consciousness as a world society -- the Earth is
warning us that if we do not we will perish ourselves.  Whether or not we
have planned for it, we have become the GLOBAL VILLAGE -- we must now
learn to think as the GLOBAL VILLAGE and to act in our collective best
interest.   

I do hope that we can schedule a 'coming together in Dialogue at
ARCOSANTI'  while seeking to realize our Full Potential Selves united in
spirit.  For those interested in doing this, please post comments and
suggested dates to your particular list serve and  I will compile the 
messages and post a coherent reply to all the lists.  You may also 
contact me privately at:  Ecopilgrim@juno.com  

marguerite 

Marguerite Hampton
Executive Director - Turtle Island Institute
EcoPilgrim@juno.com
http://tii-kokopellispirit.org
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