Re: Fw: Re: rn,wsn> Laurence Cox re: theory & praxis

   Maybe they meant W. Berry, the Kentucky decentralist essayist?
  On the dreadful David Korten see this piece. "The Village Politics of the
IFG, " by the De Fabel group.
http://burn.ucsd.edu/archives/ats-l/2000.04/msg00003.html
                                                Michael Pugliese


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> In a message dated 00-12-10 03:14:51 EST, ecopilgrim@juno.com writes:
>
> > Courage and solidarity may be enough to see us through this crisis.  But
> >  as in every battle, we, the people of the world need a common cause to
> >  fight for and a leader to hold us to courage.  Several names come to
mind
> >  including:  Ralph Nader, Fr. Thomas Berry, and David C. Korten, as ones
> >  who may have sufficient grasp of all of the issues and be acceptable as
a
> >  leader by all members of the Global Village.  We need a 'Ghandi' - a
> >  'Martin Luther King' - to issue a battle cry that can be heard around
the
> >  world.
>
> Dear Marguerite,
>
> I don't think all the members of the Global Village would agree that we,
> whoever we are, need pacifists like a Ghandi or a Martin Luther King to
issue
> a battle cry and accept reformists like Ralph Nader or David Korten as
their
> leader (by the way, who is Fr. Thomas Berry?).
>
> In what you call the Seattle and, for want of a better term, I call the
> "anti-globalization" movement, there are participants from many political
> views and countries. There are anarchists, socialists, communists,
> ecologists, ngoists, unionists what have you. There are Koreans, Finish,
> Turks, Greeks, Brazilians, Swidish, Germans, what have you.
>
> Go and attempt to tell my anarchist friends that they need a leader and
see
> what kind of reaction you will get. Mention the names of the "party" or
the
> "state" if you dare. Go and attempt to tell my socialist friends that they
> should accept David Korten as their leader and see what kind of lectures
on
> "reactionary utopias" you will get. Further, some (I would say a
significant
> portion of) participants of the movement are national liberationists. Do
you
> think they would accept an American as their leader? Of course there are
> right-wing anti-globalizationists as well, but I conveniently and
> unjustifiably assume them away. Do I need to mention those  who have no
idea
> but lots of pain?
>
> At this point, we are looking at a problem for which we don't know whether
a
> solution exists and, if exists, whether it is unique. What we need in my
> opinion is patience, not leaders. To determine whether a problem has a
unique
> solution, we need to define the problem first. And, unfortunatelly, I
don't
> see that definition yet.
>
> To sum up, at this point what we need is patience I would say. And
persistent
> work based on mutual respect. That is, we need to keep pouring the
gasoline
> into the fire. Some coordination wouldn't hurt either.
>
> Until the problem is defined!
>
> Respectfully,
> Sabri