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RE: Government of the world by the party and for the party
by Elson
22 January 2000 22:49 UTC
You really have a poor grasp of Marxism. Let me explain.
>Elson:
>"I don't recall anyone arguing that there should be a world government of
>the party and for the party. I think "dictatorship of the proletariat" is
>a failed idea with few supporters today."
>
>The fact that this idea is not openly promoted, does not make it disappear.
>There is talk of DEMOCRATIC MARXISM, but its adherents never explain, how
>it might work.
First, the basic point of Marxism is equality, liberty, democracy. I agree
that
these ideals were not achieved by the communist movements that came to
power in the
periphery. They were indeed contradictory (problems arising, in my view,
from the
attempt to create socialism in one country). But the Western socialists --
those the
core states -- have made their advances (8 hour working day, welfare-state,
etc.)
through the so-called "democratic" governments in the wealthy states, but
could do so
only because they were located in the core.
Either way, Marxists movements have never created an alternative social
system, but
only operated at the level of nation-states within the capitalist
world-system.
>Judging from past experience one can only conclude that the chances for
>success of such a system are very slim indeed, since:
>The core ideas of Marxism, such as that all means of production must belong
>to the State, can only be realized by an enormous concentration of power
>over people's lives in the hands of government.
State owned production is not a core idea of Marxism. It was a policy of
certain
Marxist-Leftist political groups -- socialists. There are other many other
Marxists
with a variety of suggestions for how production should be democratically
run. In
the American labor movement, for instance, the Knights of Labor established
worker
owned and run factories, i.e. co-ops. I don't personally think there is
one best
way, but that a egalitarian world-system would be composed of a variety of
forms of
labor control, as our world does today. But in an egalitarian system,
production
decisions and distribution of wealth would be far democratic rather than
now in which
most production decisions take place with small sovereign dictatorships
(i.e. private
enterprises).
>Obviously wielding such power wisely and effectively needs qualities
>exceedingly rare among humans. Finding individuals with such rare
>qualities is in itself already very difficult, but only under the most
>fortunate circumstances could one hope, that they could combine with what
>is required to win violent revolutions or to rise to the highest levels of
>party cadres through adept maneuvering .
You're making the classical Conservative argument against democratic
government here.
Democracy, including that which is extended to the sphere of production
(thus
allowing real democracy within the existing so-called democratic states)
It doesn't
hinge on individuals. It simply hinges on democratic mechanisms enforced
by the
sovereign people.
>Cuba's Fidel Castro and the leaders of post Maoist China might possibly
>qualify, but should a New World system depend on such a rare coincidence?
>Remember the saying, that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts
>absolutely.
Of course, and this all the more true in the Western democracies where 20%
of the
population controls 80% of the wealth and about 80% or more of the
political power
(because they are funded by the private, dictatorial enterprises). They
choose (buy)
the people's choices (and to such a glaring extent that the very idea of
campaign
reform is actually an issue (one no doubt that will pass in the wind as did
national
health care).
My previous post put forth suggestions on transforming the world-system.
Others have
put forth perhaps better or similar ideas. Read past posts. Anyhow, when
you agree
that the world-system must be made egalitarian, I'll respond to any of your
future
posts. Otherwise were better off spending our time working with those who
agree to,
or nearly agree to, this premise.
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