Fw: Re: Maps

--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mark Douglas Whitaker <mrkdwhit@wallet.com>
To: <kpmoseley@juno.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:04:25 -0600
Subject: Re: Maps
Message-ID: <199911160746.BAA21754@mail5.doit.wisc.edu>


        Your email only went to me. ;-) Though your question was aimed at
the list. 
        Do you know of any other authors who have a geographic
orientation
to borders? I know (from heresay actually) that Czarist Russian
administrative borders within the empire were organized on such a
geographic
basis.


Regards,


Mark Whitaker
University of Wisconsin-Madison


At 04:31 PM 11/15/99 -0500, kpmoseley@juno.com wrote:
>I am  delighted that someone, somewhere has mentioned the geographical
>and structural realities that do, indeed, often underlie political
>borders.
>The same dissident thought often comes to my mind when people speak,
>sweepingly, of the "arbitrary" borders imposed by colonial powers in
>Africa, supposedly totally out of whack with ethno-economic realities.
>Many of the borders, actually, make fairly good sense, and the
>alternatives that one can imagine are usually not much better. 
>But then, this may reflect only the antediluvian assumptions of someone
>who still clings to the nation state as not such a bad institution after
>all....  
>
>On another matter, there was mention recently of a paper by Wallerstein,
>"The end of the world as we know it." Superb title! Could anyone tell me
>if it is published or a ms.?
>                                       Many thanks,    KPM
>
>*******
>
>On Sun, 14 Nov 1999 22:17:11 -0600 Mark Douglas Whitaker
><mrkdwhit@wallet.com> writes:
>
>
>>At 04:28 PM 11/14/99 -0500, Georgi M. Derluguian wrote:
>>>The tech library at Binghamton .... has a special map
collection....The
>details are primarily what a pilot would 
>>see from the skies -- roads, elevators, rivers. But not the imagined 
>>political borders.
>>>
>
>
>>Hello,
>>        If you follow Harold Innis's work (Canadian econonmic 
>>historian),
>>then the political borders likely have something to do with very 
>>tangible
>>and physical geographic particularities of extraction economies or 
>>certain
>>economic formations--instead of being 'ideological' abstracts, as they 
>>are
>>typically discussed. ;-)
>>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>
>>Mark Whitaker
>>University of Wisconsin-Madison
>>
>>>
>>
>