Pat Gunning wrote:
> Bagelhole1@aol.com wrote:
>
> > I just jumped in here by chance, but how sad, to encounter such a hopelessly,
> > uninformed and naive statement. All governments corrupt. If they are not
> > corrupt now (which they all are), they will be. You know, "Absolute power
> > corrupts absolutely". So, if you want a quick route to world totalitarianism
> > set up a "World gov't.". No, there is only one real solution, IMHO, the
> > opposite of what exists today, 180 degrees. That means the end to all
> > sovereign entities. Sovereignty is what should not be tolerated, much less be
> > promoted.
> >
> > Sovereign entities are responsible for war, hunger, and torture. Yet you
> > tolerate them and accept them, take them for granted just like the air you
> > breathe. What is the bridge from here to there (violence to justice)? Laying
> > the groundwork for self-sustaining, mutually co-operative, non-sovereign,
> > consensus-based, small communities is the proactive, grass-roots way, which
> > the progressive community hasn't figured out yet. Because idiocy rules in
> > every group and throughout the world. That is why I expect this to be largely
> > ignored. But every once in a while, the swine are fed pearls.
>
> Tom, have you considered federalism? This is a world government in which
> the world police force and perhaps military, restricted by a world
> constitutional court and public sentiment, assures basic rights such as
> freedom of speech, press, exchange, ownership of legitimately-acquired
> property against confiscation by member states, and migration. The
> federated states retain the right to tax and spend so long as they abide
> by democratic principles and uphold the basic rights.
The issue of sovereignty is only an issue if it is not legitimate sovereignty.
Fundamental sovereignty resides with the individual. Democracy is the answer in as
much as it is tempered with other aspects. It must be used to establish a Republic
that is governed by a Federated system. Any application of communism is only
theoretical. When it is applied, we run the risk of it turning into Fascism.
Socialism is the only acceptable evolution of communism. Bottom line, if the
governmental structure works for the most locally governed entity, then it is the
answer for that culture/community. The only problem is when we try to combine those
diverse approaches into a global system. I don't know the final answer, but I do
know that the more opinions we gather, the closer we get to finding the answer.
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