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Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:20:38 +0300
Ahmet Cakmak (muhtar@escort.net.tr)

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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:10:37 +0300
From: Ahmet Cakmak <muhtar@escort.net.tr>
Reply-To: muhtar@escort.net.tr
To: wsn@csf.colorado.edu
Subject: living peoples

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> Hi Folks,
>
> I began to adapt your style.From now on, I say ' Hi Folks'. And,more
> important I began to feel like this. Strange, good feelings via e-mail
> instead of e-mail alienation. Virtual feelings ?
>
> Today's short paper:
>
> 2) REVOLUTION IN EDUCATION
>
> Lets begin with an exercise in our minds. Lets say there are political
> revolutions,Economic revolutions, Sociological revolutions and
> Educational revolutions. For example, can we say Russia 1917 was both
> an political and economic revolution. But it was not a sociological
> one. And it could not make its educational revolution. Maybe this is
> one of the reasons of that many leftist of today try to find answers
> in 'grassroots'. I use these so-called concepts just to express
> myself. I don't offer new concepts.
> Why SU could't make its own educational revolution ? Becouse ,they,
> like every state, had the fear of 'consciousness citizens', people who
> has critical minds,people know to think,people who you cannot direct
> easily..So, they choose an education which is same the others in
> essence but 'marxian' as a form.
> Lets try to continue our mental exercise: Which one should come first
> ? educational revolution, economic revolution, sociological revolution
> ( please don't ask me what it is exactly.I don't know its exact
> definition. It comes in my mind just now, and I feel that it is a good
> concept to express myself) and political revolution. According to
> traditional radical left first political revolution. This is the
> necesarry condition of economic revolution. Then the others... I'm not
> in a position to reject this. Even, I think it is still seems correct
> as a first step. So, why I write these sentences here ? I need to
> write. and I believe most of you share my impressions...
> According to my information, the roots of todays education system in
> west lies in last quarter of 19. century England. There workers demand
> to learn .This was the main motivation of todays educational system. I
> think establisment applied one of its basic tactics here: if you
> cannot overcome,accept it. Then try to damage it by emptying its
> content. And here is todays educational system.
> So, new left must demand: " Once again we want to learn. We want to
> develop our capabilities to learn, to judge, to analyse. A real
> revolution in Education". I think one of the real nightmare of
> dominant classes is this.
> So, we must design a new educational system. Maybe more
> philosophy, more pshcology, more history. Both in universities and in
> middle schools. Turning to basic sciences. ext. But struggle for this
> now, not later...This must be one of the main pillars of new left
> project. And this isthe reason why it is a 'revolution',not just a
> 'reform'.
>
> Ahmet Çakmak
>

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Hi Folks,

I began to adapt your style.From now on, I say ' Hi Folks'. And,more
important I began to feel like this. Strange, good feelings via e-mail
instead of e-mail alienation. Virtual feelings ?

Today's short paper:
2) REVOLUTION IN EDUCATION

Lets begin with an exercise in our minds. Lets say there are political revolutions,Economic revolutions, Sociological revolutions and Educational revolutions. For example, can we say Russia 1917 was both an political and economic revolution. But it was not a sociological one. And it could not make its educational revolution. Maybe this is one of the reasons of that many leftist of today try to find answers in 'grassroots'. I use these so-called concepts just to express myself. I don't offer new concepts.
Why SU could't make its own educational revolution ? Becouse ,they, like every state, had the fear of 'consciousness citizens', people who has critical minds,people know to think,people who you cannot direct easily..So, they choose an education which is same the others in essence but 'marxian' as a form.
Lets try to continue our mental exercise: Which one should come first ? educational revolution, economic revolution, sociological revolution ( please don't ask me what it is exactly.I don't know its exact definition. It comes in my mind just now, and I feel that it is a good concept to express myself) and political revolution. According to traditional radical left first political revolution. This is the necesarry condition of economic revolution. Then the others... I'm not in a position to reject this. Even, I think it is still seems correct as a first step. So, why I write these sentences here ? I need to write. and I believe most of you share my impressions...
According to my information, the roots of todays education system in west lies in last quarter of 19. century England. There workers demand to learn .This was the main motivation of todays educational system. I think establisment applied one of its basic tactics here: if you cannot overcome,accept it. Then try to damage it by emptying its content. And here is todays educational system.
So, new left must demand: " Once again we want to learn. We want to develop our capabilities to learn, to judge, to analyse. A real revolution in Education". I think one of the real nightmare of dominant classes is this.
    So, we must design a new educational system. Maybe more philosophy, more pshcology, more history. Both in universities and in middle schools. Turning to basic sciences. ext. But struggle for this now, not later...This must be one of the main pillars of new left project. And this isthe reason why it is a 'revolution',not just a 'reform'.
 
Ahmet Çakmak
 

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