Re: Fwd: Eyewitness: "US Forces Encourage Looting"

Fantastic

If I wanted unsubstantiated tripe id watch CNN. Give
me a photo or someone who doesnt reek of Baathist. Im
sorry but there are agendas on both sides of the
spectrum. I am ashamed that many people will simply
accept the propaganda that jives with their own
Ideology no matter where they fall. This guy came as a
human shield and was visiting friends in a pro
dictator section of Baghdad, hardly impartial. We
might as well take the statements of Franks or Someone
else uncritically. This guys statements should be
taken with the NaCl content of the pacific ocean. Just
as a frame of reference I think the military was
extremely negligent in not preventing the rape of
Iraqs museums.

Michael Doherty
Economics/History Major UMASS

PS Im enjoying this group immensely. Thank you for
providing a forum for such thought provoking issues.
--- Chris <chris.borst@utoronto.ca> wrote:
> Article from Sweden's largest circulation daily,
> Dagens Nyheter, 
> Friday April 11, 2003 
>
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=1435&a=129852&previousRenderType=1
> 
> "US FORCES ENCOURAGE LOOTING"
> By Ole Rothenborg
> 
> Khaled Bayomi looks a bit surprised when he looks at
> the American 
> officer on TV regret that they don't have any
> resources to stop the 
> looting in Baghdad.
> 
> - I happened to be there just as the US forces told
> people to commence looting.
> 
> Khaled Bayomi departed from Malmoe to Baghdad, as a
> human shield, and 
> arrived on the same day the fighting begun.
> 
> About this he can tell us plenty and for a long
> time, but the most 
> interesting part of his story is his witness-account
> about the great 
> surge of looting now taking place.
> 
> - I had visited a few friends that live in a
> worn-down area just 
> beyond the Haifa Avenue, on the west bank of the
> Tigris River. It was 
> April 8 and the fighting was so heavy I couldn't
> make it over to the 
> other side of the river. On the afternoon it became
> perfectly quit, 
> and four American tanks pulled up in position on the
> outskirts of the 
> slum area.
> 
> - From these tanks we heard anxious calls in Arabic,
> which told the 
> population to come closer.
> 
> - During the morning everybody that tried to cross
> the streets had 
> been fired upon. But during this strange silence
> people eventually 
> became curious. After three-quarters of an hour the
> first Baghdad 
> citizens dared to come forward. At that moment the
> US solders shot 
> two Sudanese guards, who were posted in front of a
> local 
> administrative building, on the other side of the
> Haifa Avenue.
> 
> - I was just 300 meters away when the guards where
> murdered. Then 
> they shot the building entrance to pieces, and their
> Arabic 
> translators in the tanks told people to run for
> grabs inside the 
> building. Rumours spread rapidly and the house was
> cleaned out. 
> Moments later tanks broke down the doors to the
> Justice Department, 
> residing in the neighbouring building, and the
> looting was carried on 
> to there.
> 
> - I was standing in a big crowd of civilians that
> saw all this 
> together with me. They did not take any part in the
> looting, but were 
> to afraid to take any action against it. Many of
> them had tears of 
> shame in their eyes. The next morning looting spread
> to the Museum of 
> Modern Art, which lies another 500 meters to the
> north. There was 
> also two crowds in place, one that was looting and
> another one that 
> disgracefully saw it happen.
> 
> Do you mean to say that it was the US troops that
> initiated the looting?
> 
> - Absolutely. The lack of scenes of joy had the US
> forces in need of 
> images on Iraqi's who in different ways demonstrated
> their disgust 
> with Saddam's regime.
> 
> But people in Baghdad tore down a big statue of
> Saddam?
> 
> - They did? It was a US tank that did this, close to
> the hotel where 
> all the journalists live. Until noon on the 9th of
> April, I didn't 
> see a single torn picture of Saddam anywhere. If
> people had wanted to 
> turn over statues they could have gone for some of
> the many smaller 
> ones, without the help of an American tank. Had this
> been a political 
> uproar then people would have turned over statues
> first and looted 
> afterwards.Home in Sweden Khaled Bayomi is a PhD
> student at the 
> University of Lund, where he since ten years both
> teaches and 
> researches about conflicts in the Middle East. He is
> very well 
> informed about the conflicts, as well as he is on
> the propaganda war.
> 
> Isn't it good that Saddam is gone?
> 
> - He is not gone. He has dissolved his army in tiny,
> tiny groups. 
> This is why there never was any big battle. Saddam
> dissolved Iraq as 
> a state already in 1992 and have since had a
> parallel tribal 
> structure in place, which has been altogether
> decisive for the 
> country. When USA begun the war Saddam completely
> abandoned the 
> state, and now depends on this tribal structure.
> This is why he left 
> the big cities without any battles.
> 
> - Now USA are forced to do everything themselves,
> because there is no 
> political force from within that would challenge the
> structure in 
> place. The two challengers who came in from the
> outside were 
> immediately lynched.
> 
> Khaled Bayomi refers to what happened with general
> Nazar al-Khazraji, 
> who escaped from Denmark, and Shia-muslim leader
> Abdul Majid 
> al-Khoei. Both men where chopped to pieces by a
> raging crowd in 
> Najaf, because they were perceived to be American
> marionettes. 
> According to Danish newspaper BT, al-Khazraji was
> picked up by the 
> CIA in Denmark and brought to Iraq.
> 
> - Now we have an occupation force in Iraq, that has
> not said how long 
> it will stay, not brought forward any time-plan for
> civilian rule and 
> not yet set a date for general elections. Now awaits
> only a big chaos.
> 


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