Re: new immanence

At 2/15/2003  09:54 PM, Yurek Gierus wrote:

> After the discussion in the Security Council
> on Friday and mass protests on the globe on Saturday it would be
> difficult for the US to persist in upholding a momentum in its present
> policy towards Iraq unless some new dramatic events take place or new
> revelations are made by the inspectors.


Based on today's TV news shows, the Bush 
administration has not backed off of their
position -- they still claim war is warranted,
and that they're willing to proceed with a 
coalition of the willing.


> Weekend protests seem to confirm the role of
> what Antonio Negri called “multitude” acting on what he called “new plane
> of immanence”. Recent events also seem to confirm the role Wallerstein
> ascribed to France – its powerful speech at the SC indicates this.
> Britain’s embarrassingly weak performance at the SC is an indication that
> British government is taking heed of the opinion of the public and brings
> forward the sensitive side of Tony Blair.


Blair was quoted discounting the demonstrators
as a mere fraction of all British citizens, 
the majority of which he claimed were silent 
supporters of his position.


> This new European “immanence” and readiness to
> shred the remnants of ancien regime is a response to the rule of the game
> spelled out by US hegemonic cycle. Europe is learning to say NO. It knows
> it has to rehearse doing this once it has opened up for new members. It
> is trying to learn the role of a manager in this new situation because
> being a client (to the US) and a patron (to “new Europe”) is out of date.
> If this is what a post modern condition is about, I welcome it.
>
> Yurek Gierus


While Europe had a tremendous turn out this
weekend, the numbers in the US were much lower.

I suspect this is largely due to the current
state of public consciousness in the US - a
consciousness largely defined by propaganda
delivered via the corporate media.

Did France and Germany take their positions 
in response to public pressure?  Did these 
public pressures arise spontaneously without
manipulation from establishment powers?

If the answer to both of these questions is
yes, then it bodes well for the post modern
condition.  Otherwise, I'd suggest it's just 
more of the same.


At 2/16/2003  09:42 AM, Threehegemons@aol.com wrote:

> Over the last weekend, the multitude wasn't
> just protesting imminent war--it was also spontaneously uprising in
> Bolivia (the article below is from Znet):
>
> Working-Class Revolt In Bolivia 


Funny how this apparently major news story
has been missing from the mass media here
in the US.  

There's also been very little coverage of
the situation in Venezuela.  And the little
I've seen has been extremely biased and one
sided.

Here again, I wonder if events in both of 
these countries are spontaneously arising 
among the masses?

Comments welcome ...

Jay.


> by Forrest Hylton 
> February 13, 2003 
>     
> BOLIVIA WATCH 
>
> Dual power has come to Bolivia most suddenly: not, as expected, in the
> form of a coordinated uprising of coca growers, highland Aymara peasants,
> and Quechua speaking peasants under the direction of Evo Morales, Felipe
> Quispe, and the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the People; instead, high school
> students and the working class of La Paz and its satellite city, El Alto,
> rose up spontaneously in the largest urban insurrection since the
> National Revolution of 1952. 
> <snip>


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