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Re: Neo-conservatism and workers

by wwagar

13 July 2000 04:08 UTC



I agree completely.  That is the heart of our problem.  How can we
persuade highly paid workers in one part of the world to identify with
impoverished workers in another (or even the same) part?  I offer no easy
answers, but fundamentally it is a question of consciousness.  Workers are
workers.  How can we convince them?  Tell me!

Comradely,

Warren


On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Nasreen Karim wrote:

> The problem I have with this interpretation is that it obscures the internal
> heterogeneity
> of the working class in terms of different levels of reward and power.
> Workers in the primary and secondary sectors within a core economy, or
> workers in core and peripheral countries may share a common theoretical
> location, based on non-ownership of means of production and selling of
> labor, within the mode of production, but that commonality  has little
> significance for the concrete task of  identifying and mobilizing the
> practical forces for radical politics.  What are the practical class
> interests of a doctor or a highly paid architect  in the
> United States that would lead them into a class alliance with the
> peasants-workers in Bangladesh in the struggle for global socialism?  Long
> ago, Rosa Luxemburg and Lenin, in somewhat different conceptual planes,
> addressed the same problem of internal fragmentation of the working class.
> 
> Manjur Karim
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <wwagar@binghamton.edu>
> To: Alan Spector <spectors@netnitco.net>
> Cc: g kohler <gkohler@accglobal.net>; George Pennefather
> <poseidon@eircom.net>; <wsn@csf.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Neo-conservatism and workers
> 
> 
> >
> > This post was interrupted last week by a technical glitch.
> >
> > I think it is of the utmost importance to maintain a distinction
> > between those who are workers and those who are owners of workers.
> > Contemporary capitalism makes this difficult, with its co-optation of
> > workers through "profit-sharing" and "stock option" tactics.  But the fact
> > remains:  the world is divided into those who work for a living, i.e.,
> > who derive most of their income from their labor, in the form of wages,
> > salaries, commissions, royalties, or fees;  and those who derive most of
> > their income from their ownership of "securities."  I exempt retirees who
> > derive most of their income from securities acquired as an additional
> > reward for their labor.  A great and impassable gulf separates the two
> > categories.  A composer of music, an architect, a medical doctor, a
> > university professor, or a store manager belongs to the working class, as
> > surely as a plumber, construction laborer, salesclerk, nurse, or
> > stenographer.  All are subject to the vagaries and vicissitudes of the
> > market place.  All work for their livelihood.
> >
> > Under socialism, as often said before, the distinction between
> > manual and brain labor vanishes.  So let us, conceptually at least, forget
> > about the difference between peasant and proletarian and petty bourgeois.
> > We're all in the same blasted boat!
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Warren
> >
> 
> 
> 



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